Talk:Space weather

Comments on re-write of Space Weather page

I read over the previous comments about the Space Weather page. A complete re-write was necessary to address the previous comments and more. Much of the old material was kept. The old material kept was re-arranged and incorporated into the new material. Some of the specific items addressed in the re-write were:

• The previous version of the space weather page addressed the history of space weather only by mention some observation spacecraft. A history section was created.
• This observations of space weather by spacecraft was incomplete and misleading. On the new page, the observation history starts with Explorer I and briefly mentions the most important spacecraft for space weather of the past half-century. Also information about space weather observations from the ground has been added.
• The GIC section of the new page discusses a wider range of application affected by GIC with additional references added.
• A section about the effect of space weather on terrestrial weather is included. Sprites, which are an effect of the terrestrial weather on the ionosphere, are not mentioned.
• The Bibliography, Further Reading and External Links sections were reviewed to make sure enough information is given to make the items accessible. A couple were dropped because they were not easily accessible. No effort was made to drop item due to redundancy or quality.
• The modeling section was expanded. More information could be added, but then the modeling topic should become a separate topic page which the space weather page would reference.

This page is closely related to the geomagnetic storm page. There is some redundancy between the space weather and geomagnetic storm pages. The geomagnetic storm should also be revised. Richfj (talk) 12:10, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Expansion to do list

• How does space weather affect terrestrial weather? Strong sources needed for this surprising claim.
• What was used to predict space weather before SOHO?
• Potential source for expansion: About Space Weather - NOAA SWPC

Substantial modifications to the entry needed?

Although previous contributions to the entry are greatly appreciated, in my opinion the entry on Space Weather is at the moment quite fragmented and contains partially inaccurate information. General reconstruction of the entry may thus be beneficial. This in mind, Ground Effects Topical Group of European Space Agency's Space Weather Working Team (SWWT) contributed a new section on ground effects of space weather to the entry. Perhaps other space weather experts, for example, from other Topical Groups of SWWT could contribute similar basics-level (more in depth text could be given in more specific articles like that on geomagnetically induced currents) sections to the entry? Antti Pulkkinen 19:34, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Space Weather and its effects on our weather

• It's an interesting topic that isn't that well-known, but could be an interesting expansion to the article if anyone wants to hear about it. The correlation between the solar wind speeds and large-scale storm development is quite shocking. Unfortunately, there's nothing published about such a correlation yet, which is why I ask if anyone is interested. WindRunner 03:00, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
  • I haven't heard of the relation between the solar wind and storms, but it definitely has an effect on geomagnetic activity. As far as terrestrial weather goes I do recall hearing something about how increased cosmic ray flux during solar minimum can lead to increased cloud formation (something about water vapor condensing around ionized particles). Interesting stuff. -Loren 05:57, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

hat was used before ? -->

At present, this section refers only to links between the space environment and terrestrial climate (not terrestrial weather). Suggest change of name of this section to "Space weather and its effects on climate". Heliophysics (talk) 10:11, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

This section only cites the, at best, "fringe" ideas and completely disregards the huge number of mainstream studies. Suggest, at the very least, briefly summarising and citing Gray et al., 2010, Solar influences on climate, doi:10.1029/2009RG000282, which has been cited in the literature nearly 600 times. Heliophysics (talk) 10:11, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

There have been some studies of space weather and its effects on terrestrial weather, particularly relating to lightning (e.g., Lightning as a space-weather hazard: UK thunderstorm activity modulated by the passage of the heliospheric current sheet, Owens et al., Geophys. Res. Lett. doi:10.1002/2015GL066802), but those are still under scrutiny by the community. Heliophysics (talk) 10:11, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

External links

Do we rally need 32 external links on space weather? I'll see if I can eliminate at least few of them. Any help would be appreciated. --Dia^ (talk) 15:23, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

I removed few more links and now the total is down to 12. Still, I feel that 8 links just for space weather forecast are a bit too many. However it seemed to me that every website analysed and presented the data in a different way and therefore I found all of them somehow interesting. --Dia^ (talk) 15:48, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Satellites Observing Space Weather

This section lacks mention of any Earth-observing satellites with space weather or geomagnetic instruments and missions. From the current writeup, you'd thing the only thing that matters is solar observation. Auroral oval, near-Earth particle flux measurements, and even ionospheric thickness measurements using GPS signal delay and attenuation are critical and practical elements of space weather, and the instruments involved are all Earth-observing. --Gnoitall (talk) 00:02, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

The earth observing instruments give a space weather report, but the solar observations and data from SE-L1 should allow forecasts (which the satellite operators need) ? - Rod57 (talk) 22:00, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

NOAA Space Weather Scales

I feel it should be noted that there is a rating system for solar weather, as with hurricanes, etc. As to whether it should be on this page, it's own page, or as a footnote on Geomagnetic Storms and so on I couldn't say. Michael Isaiah Schmidt (talk) 07:32, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

space climate?

How does the weather and climate distinction apply to the outer space? Fgnievinski (talk) 02:52, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

The distinction is like that for terrestrial weather and climate. Space weather is about short-term variation, while space climate is about longer-term variation and trend. DoctorTerrella (talk) 02:55, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Then the present article ought to be renamed to Space weather and climate. Fgnievinski (talk) 07:04, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that would make sense. If the article were retitled, some dichotomy, weather and climate, would eventually develop within the article, possibly leading to a division of the article into two articles. That would be acceptable too, but that would require quite a bit of work! DoctorTerrella (talk) 10:24, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Restructure proposal

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Comments

• It seems there may be some old links that are no longer active for this pages referencesTafoy013 (talk) 03:43, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Needs more on prediction

The SW prediction centre etc provide forecasts for polar airflights and for satellite operators. What do they predict and how far out can they predict or forecast ? - Rod57 (talk) 21:56, 8 September 2021 (UTC)