Talk:Soviet integrated circuit designation

Holy WP:CITEKILL Batman

@Drahtlos: I'm going to give you the opportunity to removal the ridiculous level of citation in the lede. Generally, the lede does not need to even have citation in it, as long as it is a summary of the information contained in the article. See WP:LEDE for more information. This has got to be cleaned up though.  {MordeKyle}  ☢ 23:56, 17 January 2017 (UTC) @Drahtlos: Messed up the original ping, re-ping.  {MordeKyle}  ☢ 23:59, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Done. Drahtlos (talk) 19:00, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

@Drahtlos: thanks for removing this from the lede, however, it is still very unnecessary to have so much citation. Please check out WP:CITEKILL for more information on this. This needs to be fixed. I will do it myself if must be, but I'd rather have you do it, since you appear to know more on the subject than I do.  {MordeKyle}  ☢ 02:32, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Here I would argue the point. These links underline why the article is relevant and allow you to read further about the actual use of the standards described. There is also no easy way for readers to find these sources. Finally, I thought it more concise to have the manufacturer links in one place rather than adding citations to each of the examples in the article. Drahtlos (talk) 03:22, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

@Drahtlos: I understand what you are trying to do, but this is not what Wikipedia is for. I would suggest finding another medium for this data. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information.  {MordeKyle}  ☢ 20:22, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

@MordeKyle: "List of integrated circuit manufacturers in states of the former Soviet Union that as of 2016 still use the integrated circuit designation standards of at least part of their products" is indiscriminate? If I take the references out then "... is used by a number of manufacturers in Russia..." would likely get a "by whom?", WP:CITE, or even WP:WEASEL, and justifiably so. Otherwise, which links would you remove and which would you leave in? Drahtlos (talk) 17:30, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

@Drahtlos: if you had the information in list form, it may or may not be a violation of Wikipedia policy. Having this information listed like this:

Russia, [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] [25] [26] [27] [28] [29] [30] [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36] [37] [38] [39] [40] [41] [42] [43] [44] [45] Belarus, [46] [47] [48] Ukraine, [49] [50] [51] [52] Latvia, [53] [54] and Uzbekistan. [55]

is definitely a violation of Wikipedia policy.  {MordeKyle}  ☢ 20:24, 24 January 2017 (UTC)