Talk:Soviet Red Army Monument, Harbin

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 18:40, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

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Soviet Red Army Monument in Harbin

• ... that the Soviet Red Army Monument (pictured) in Harbin, China, was built over the destroyed remains of an earlier monument which honored the White Russian émigrés who died in the fight against the Comintern?

• Source: [1]

• ALT1: ... that after the Soviet Red Army Monument (pictured) in Harbin was covered with scaffolding during the Sino-Soviet split, diplomats and organizations would lay wreaths on it during the Qingming Festival and VE Day? Source: 見多識廣：難忘蘇軍烈士紀念碑
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/BB's Tex-Orleans

Created by Toadboy123 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 38 past nominations.

Toadboy123 (talk) 07:27, 1 July 2024 (UTC).

• Comment, not a full review, but ALT1 is better in my opinion (also the phrasing 'fight against Comintern' is quite skewed, arguably they fought the Soviet Union). But surely the wreaths were laid on Victory Day (9 May)? --Soman (talk) 12:26, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
  • @Soman: Would the first hook be acceptable to you if it was worded as '... that the Soviet Red Army Monument (pictured) in Harbin, China, was built over the destroyed remains of an earlier monument which honored the White Russian émigrés who died in the fight against the Soviet Union?' --Toadboy123 (talk) 16:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
    • @Soman: Regarding the wreaths on VE Day, the source stated mentions 'May 9th Victory Day' which means its VE Day. Can you also confirm if you are reviewing my hook as part of QPQ or if I have to wait for another user to do so? --Toadboy123 (talk) 15:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
      • @Toadboy:, there are 2 different commemorations. VE Day is celebrated May 8 (the date adopted by Western countries), Victory Day (9 May) (the date adopted by Soviet Union) is celebrated May 9. I'm not providing a full review, just commenting. --Soman (talk) 01:03, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
• for ALT2 (based on ALT1 above) - ... that after the Soviet Red Army Monument (pictured) in Harbin was covered with scaffolding during the Sino-Soviet split, diplomats and organizations would lay wreaths on it during the Qingming Festival and May 9 Victory Day? Length, date, qpq ok. Image free on Commons. I'm struggling a bit with the Google Translate for the Wen Wei Po reference, but assuming good faith. No close paraphrase found. The china-voyage link for the other hook suggestion is not WP:RS, it is a copy of a forum post. --Soman (talk) 15:22, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
  • @Soman: Would ALT1 be preferable since the unreliable source was removed and replaced by another source? --Toadboy123 (talk) 04:11, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
    • In part, yes. However, I still prefer ALT1/ALT2 as more interesting. --Soman (talk) 11:14, 14 July 2024 (UTC)