Talk:Soil salinity

Latest comment: 3 years ago by DMacks in topic ECe and dS/m

Article rename edit

What is, the difference, if any, between salination and salinisation (saliniziation)? --AndreasPraefcke 15:24, 24 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

I think the first describes "what the condition is now" and the second is a verb "the act of salting soil". 71.199.123.24 07:47, 17 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
As used within WP, they are synonymous. I advocate moving the page, to soil salinization, which gets 58,800 results in a Google search, plus an additional 18,800 results for the close variant, "soil salinisation". These 77,600 results are significantly higher than only 16,200 results for "soil salination", especially considering the multiplier effect of wikipedia content emulators. -- Paleorthid 21:23, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
An alternative rename, As currently posted at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Soil/Worklist, is to rename the article I advocate moving the page, to soil salinity. The term gets 367,000 results in a Google search. -- Paleorthid 21:37, 5 September 2006 (UTC), updated 01:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Where are the resources used?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.47.250.138 (talkcontribs) 19:40, 12 September 2006.

Datura edit

Datura is listed under "see also". A brief note about how it relates to this article's topic should be added. Wikipeditor 15:37, 18 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Bias edit

The artcile seems to imply soil salinization is necessarily bad, which is not true. Soil salinization can be a good thing - plants cannot live without sufficient sodium salts in their soil, for example. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mcampbell422 (talkcontribs).

It's true that plants may need small amounts of various salts. However, "soil trace nutrients for plants" (therefore info about beneficial as well as detrimental amounts and balances) is not the topic of this article. "Soil salination is the accumulation of free salts to such an extent that it leads to degradation of soils and vegetation" is the stated working definition of the term "soil salination" for purposes of this article. That is almost a bad thing by definition, and certainly excludes the levels of sodium you are considering. DMacks 07:17, 13 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

I live in an ecosystem that requires high concentrations of salt in the soil. If the salts were removed the ecosystem would collapse. Wiki skylace 16:20, 3 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

So why don't you add something about that to the article. Rosetta Nov 2007

ACK !

Article rename (2008) edit

This article addresses a condition (soil salinity, dryland salinity), a process (soil salinisation / salinization), and a type (salt affected soil, saline soil). The term used for the article title, soil salination is not in common usage. Accordingly, the current title impairs usability. I propose renaming the article to soil salinity. Feedback to date indicates this is a non-controversial move. -- Paleorthid (talk) 03:32, 6 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

  Done. Cheers =) --slakrtalk / 08:06, 8 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Solutions to soil salinity edit

I came to this page as I wanted to know how to reverse the process or lower the soil salinity. Anyone think we should add a section on some processes that will lower soil salinity? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.107.0.101 (talk) 22:26, 12 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Salinity by lower water table edit

Salination of the soil by a lowered water table eg by the placement of water wells [1] is not discussed

References

Sectioned it... edit

as per

{{sections|date=June 2009}}

no attachment to my heading scheme

also added a legend to salinisation by evapouration diagram and various minor tidyings

Trev M (talk) 02:34, 30 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Irrigation edit

Why doesn't this article link to irrigation? 77.219.169.181 (talk) 23:26, 17 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

Please feel free to add anything you think is missing...everyone is welcome to edit the articles on wikipedia. DMacks (talk) 00:03, 18 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

Assessment comment edit

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Soil salinity/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

* Rename to soil salinity. The condition of soil salinity is more fundamental than the processes that cause, prevent and moderate it. It is the most familiar of the candidate terms covering the subject area. -- Paleorthid (talk) 03:42, 6 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

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ECe and dS/m edit

The article uses these units. I could see deci-Siemens per Meter as a measure for Salinity, but I am lost at eka-Coulomb. What's what here? --185.69.244.187 (talk) 13:27, 21 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

"EC" ("electrical conneductivity") seems to be a standard unit for this measurement for salinity, with 1 dS/m = 1000 EC.[1] But that's clearly not the intended meaning here. Instead, I think it's actually "ECe", where "EC" is the variable (not the unit of measurement) and the subscript denotes some specific variant.[2] This isn't a field of study with which I'm familiar, so someone else will have to read through that latter ref to try to figure out more. DMacks (talk) 13:40, 21 July 2020 (UTC)Reply