Talk:Software engineer/Archives/2017

BRD for "most states prohibit unlicensed" engineers

Recently, edits have added the following:

In the United States, most states prohibit unlicensed persons from calling themselves an "engineer"...

This, from my professional experience, isn't true. It's also contradicted by the paragraph that follows this: (Some of the states regulate the use of... "software engineer". (my emphasis). The added "most states" claim includes only one new ref, for the single state of Georgia. The claim has been reverted twice, and now the exact same text has been added again by Engineeringworld2. Per WP:BRD, I'm restoring the pre-contention state, awaiting discussion here for any evidence that such restrictions apply to the majority of US states. --A D Monroe III^(talk) 23:48, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

User:A D Monroe III Such as the immigration laws... states are behind in enforcing laws... from my User: Engineeringworld2 professional experience many people that call themselves software "engineer" really need to be calling themselves software "developers". In either case, states regulate the term "engineer" for the public welfare, safety, safeguarding of life, health, or property because of many engineering failures caused by incompetent people that they thought they were "engineers". So, nowadays most engineering failures are coming in from software side. Equifax being the latest largest headline...Needless to say because of all recent failures, based on my professional experience is time to set the record straight...we are at a crossroad, so we need to set the ship in the right path. Is ok for folks that are "developers". They just need to correctly call themselves "developers". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Engineeringworld2 (talk • contribs) 09:47, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

I agree it's important that professionals don't misrepresent themselves; the world would be a better place if we could avoid that ever happening. But Wikipedia cannot change society, society changes Wikipedia. Whatever is happening in the real world is what gets reported by WP. There are other online wikis that attempt to drive their version of the WP:TRUTH, but that drives them into catering only to small fringe groups. To avoid that, WP must rely on reliable sources, rather than on what "should be". --A D Monroe III^(talk) 15:26, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

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Changes to the "Regulatory classification" section

I've removed the excessive citations attempting to prove a fact about the word "engineer" which is demonstrated in the sentence Texas and Florida are among the states that regulate the use of terms such as computer engineer[32] and software engineer[33].. Please discuss. power~enwiki (π, ν) 02:22, 13 December 2017 (UTC)