Talk:Society of Professional Engineers UK
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Can someone who has an application to read Ms doc files please compare the text of this article to this document. I suspect they have significant overlap. If so, please slap a {{copyvio}} tag onto the article (removing all text first, of course). Mindmatrix 14:52, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- The article does indeed quote large amounts from the link provided by Mindmatrix so I have applied the {{copyvio}} template. I also find it interesting that the Society of Professional Engineers seems to overlap the efforts of the Engineering Council UK. Since professional and academic credentials from worthless sources are proliferating these days, I think it would be wise for both organizations to provide links on their web sites to a UK government website that endorses them, to alleviate doubt. Gerry Ashton 21:42, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm licensed member of NSPE USA, I'm also Fellow of SPE P.Eng and MIET. NSPE is recognized society in USA representing PE's in all the states of the union, NSPE is forming member of ABET. In 2002 We NSPE USA signed reciprocal agreement with SPE UK. We at NSPE and also the French SNIPF find SPE credible partner society that serves interests of its members.
Read the following:
The NSPE Board of Directors recently approved affiliation agreements with the Korean Professional Engineers Association and the Society of Professional Engineers, located in England
How does this relate to CEng? edit
Q)How does this society relate to the Engineering Council UK and the Chartered Engineer (CEng) designation? Are they rivals or something? Psnae 15:57, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
A)The nationally recognized body to register CEng, IEng and EngTech is the ECUK.
ECUK is not registering P.Eng registration. P.Eng is legally reserved for Professional Engineers belonging to SPE. SPE is smaller and younger organization that has roots in Institution of Engineers - the oldest Engineering Society in UK (this statement is wrong - the oldest engineering institution in the UK is the Institution of Civil Engineers - 1818 and the second oldest is the Institution of Mechanical Engineers - 1847).
SPE is authorized by the Secretary of State and the DTI - UK Government Department of Trade and Industry to maintain the register of Professional Engineers who meet the ECC Directives and ILO - International labor Organization.
They are humble society with reciprocal agreements with NSPE USA(ABET member) SNIPF France - official and accredited society to register Engineers in French Registry of Engineers and other organizations.
Some people may elect to have in their portfolio dual designations of C.Eng and P.Eng. (P.Eng is the professional engineer Title giving a license to practice engineering in Canadian Provincial Law. The Engineers Act in Ontario Canada was established in 1922. P.Eng has no legal authority in the UK and there are no laws that underwrite it. You can just about make up any engineering title in the UK and no one can stop you.
SPE is working on additional agreements and partnerships. One new reciprocal agreement is with the Society of Diagnostic Engineers UK. Some find great value in Registration with SPE, others as mentioned prefer more widely recognized C.Eng or I.Eng.
One holds degree from Oxford wile another from less known and younger institution. They all serve their needs respectfully.
Another example is BCS - British Computer Society - they are licensed by ECUK to register C.Eng and I.Eng. they also register their own qualifications -Chartered IT Professional, Chartered Scientist etc.
The CITP ans CSc are not ECUK qualifications.
Engineering as a profession is not protected/regulated in UK, license to practice is not required.
Copyvio version replaced edit
The old copyvio version has been deleted and replaced with a /Temp.--Commander Keane 08:46, 5 August 2006 (UTC)