Talk:Social heuristics/GA1

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Ganesha811 in topic GA Review

GA Review edit

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Reviewer: Ganesha811 (talk · contribs) 18:39, 1 May 2021 (UTC)Reply


Hi! I'm opening a Good Article Nomination review. Hoping to complete the review over the next couple of days. I'll be using the template below. Thanks! Ganesha811 (talk) 18:39, 1 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Ganesha811: The nominator (who edited for a college class that has since ended) hasn't edited since December, so you might want to make sure they're still available before you put too much time into this review. Cheers, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:45, 1 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Extraordinary Writ, thanks, I'll drop a note on their talk page. Ganesha811 (talk) 19:05, 1 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Hello Ganesha811. Although this is not my field of specialization, I am interested in sociology. I will be available to address your points, should the original nominator not respond. — The Most Comfortable Chair 11:06, 3 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
    The Most Comfortable Chair, thanks! The original nominator has confirmed that they're active and should be around, but I appreciate the offer. Ganesha811 (talk) 01:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Mwla20, I've wrapped up my first run-through of the GA review. Please take a look - overall, it's in a good place, but there are a few issues to address/changes to be made. Thanks! Ganesha811 (talk) 13:16, 7 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
    Mwla20 - hi! I hope that you will see this message and be able to respond to some comments on the GA review. If not, in a couple days, I'll ask another editor to step in and work with me. Hopefully we can get the article to GA status one way or the other. Ganesha811 (talk) 14:11, 11 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
    Mwla20, any updates? You'd mentioned you will hopefully have time to edit the article soon. Thanks! Ganesha811 (talk) 19:12, 18 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
    Hi Ganesha811! I updated the lead a bit to make sure the definition of a heuristic was clear. I also defined the term "agent" in the examples section - good catch on that! I was able to find one academic paper about cross-cultural variation related to the social heuristics hypothesis, and another about social roles, but if there were other specific sources you had in mind for these topics let me know. Additionally, I wasn't able to find anything about why people might override social heuristics when looking on GoogleScholar (maybe what you were seeing was about heuristics in general?). If you have a link for that I'm happy to check that out! Thanks so much for your thoughtful review!! Mwla20 (talk) 01:01, 21 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
    Mwla20, thank you! I'll take another look and see if I can dig up some of those links. Ganesha811 (talk) 23:52, 22 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
  1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.
  • In general this is a well-written article, but I do have a few prose concerns. The term "agent" is used without explanation, which would be confusing for someone who doesn't know the field. The first time it is used, it should be linked to a relevant other page (if one exists) and defined parenthetically. Similarly the term 'heuristic' should be briefly defined in the lead. It would be great if you wanted to go through this in general with the view of someone who has never heard of this concept before and has no idea of what the academic context is.
  • To expand on this, I think this is the biggest issue for the article right now. A good pass with the view to making this an article suitable for someone learning about the subject for the first time, and we'll just about be there.
  • Issues addressed, pass.
  1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
  • No issues here. Pass.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
  2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
  • Pass, no issues here.
  2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
  • Almost all academic sources from reliable journals. Pass. Ganesha811 (talk) 01:39, 5 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
  2c. it contains no original research.
  • Check through and comparison to sources doesn't show any original research, or inappropriate synthesis. Pass.
  2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.
  • No violations found by Earwig or manual spot check.
3. Broad in its coverage:
  3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
  • While the article covers the basics of what a social heuristic is and gives some good examples, I'm not sure it's comprehensive. I'm seeing some academic work on how heuristics vary between cultures, why people sometimes choose to override heuristics, and how differing social roles may affect the heuristics we use. It would be great to add some information, maybe just a couple sentences each, on these topics.
  • Issue largely addressed, pass.
  3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
  • Pass. Level of detail is good.
  4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
  • No neutrality issues found. Pass.
  5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
  • No edit wars or rapid expansion. Pass.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
  6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
  • No issues. Pass.
  6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
  • No issues. Note: it would be good if there was a simple graphic or something like that for the lead, demonstrating visually what a social heuristic is. I completely understand if no such thing exists in the public domain, however. Pass.
  7. Overall assessment.