Talk:Snow (beer)

Latest comment: 8 years ago by El cid, el campeador in topic Best selling?

Minor edits

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I made a few minor edits to enhance readability. I think this page needs a bit of work, especially given that it's about the "best selling beer in the world." Jpgamboa (talk) 00:16, 21 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Removing an entire paragraph without explanation is not a "minor edit to enhance readability". Kindly refrain from engaging in underhanded practices. Owen× 00:45, 21 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, I don't think I would refer to what I did as "underhanded" by any means. Yes, I did remove a paragraph on a very short article, but I probably misstated the changes as "minor." I'm trying to contribute to the community, not subvert it. Any suggestions would be appreciated. However, I do think that the last paragraph is a bit confusing. It states that there are several "brands" of Snow, but no mention of their styles. The Reuters article cited in on the page mentions the "range," but I'm having trouble finding any other styles other than just "Snow" Jpgamboa (talk) 05:05, 21 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

If that paragraph is confusing, you are welcome to reword it so that it is clearer. Owen× 15:42, 21 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Best selling?

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The sources make it clear that Snow's status as the "best selling beer in the world" is dependent on the definition of the term. Snow beer is not a single type of beer; different varieties are sold throughout China. When sales for all different varieties are added up, they exceed the sales of 5.0% ABV Budweiser, and of the sales of Bud Light, but not of both combined. My approach was to name Snow as the best selling beer, but spell out the caveat about how sales are calculated, as done in the sources. Alas, there's a persistent anon editor here, using multiple IPs, determined to remove any mention of Budweiser from the article, in what I can only see as corporate shill work. I offered several different wordings in an attempt to compromise, but the anon would have none of that. I would appreciate a third opinion on the matter. Owen× 15:06, 8 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

Is the article about Snow Beer, a single product in the Snow beer-brand range or it is about the Snow beer-brand in general? In beer articles we encourage the use of italics for the names of beer brands to differentiate them from the breweries of the same name (such as Carlsberg and Carlsberg, though such usage is not universal, sadly. If it is made clearer what the article is about, that might help decide the dispute. If it is about the brand range, then some mention of the other products in the same range would be helpful. Either way, the information from the Reuters article regarding the comparison with Bud is helpful and encyclopaedic so should remain. It is also noteworthy that most articles on the topic talk about the Snow beer brand rather than Snow Beer as a unique product. SilkTork ✔Tea time 20:11, 8 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

The constant inclusion of ABInBev's Budweiser and Bud Light brands despite having zero relevance to this article has made me incredibly suspect of this users motives. The user above states that Snow is brand range of beers but so are Bud Light and Budweiser respectively. They are two seperate ranges of beer that ABInBev brew. This is what the author of the source also states and is the reason they are not grouped in the first place under the name "Budweiser". For what reason would you ever include these two ranges into one mega-brand other than to force inclusion of your brand names into the article? Nobody thinks Bud Light and Budweiser are the same thing. 109.158.89.105 (talk) 21:32, 8 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

Bud Light is the same as Snow Beer, it is a unique product called Bud Light and is also the brand name for a range of over 30 different beer products, such as Bud Light Lime-a-Rita, Bud Light Golden Wheat, and Bud Light Platinum. The reason Bud Light and Budweiser are mentioned in the article is because reliable sources are comparing them to Snow Beer (or the Snow beer brand). The comparison is useful, especially as it puts the claim that Snow Beer as a unique product outsells all other unique products into perspective. I don't know which claim is correct, but it is appropriate that our article gives both sides of the argument, otherwise we would be showing bias, which is against one of our core policies - see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, and in particular: WP:BALANCE. SilkTork ✔Tea time 02:35, 13 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

Can random IP addresses stop taking out the Bud Light part? It seems like it is always usernames that add it back, then random IP addresses that take it out. If there is any ulterior motive it would appear clear that is on the behalf of the anonymous users, not the established users.El cid, el campeador (talk) 13:57, 24 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

Is it 61 or 100 hectolitres?

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Well? It can't be both.63.155.133.183 (talk) 10:40, 28 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

The sources show 100 million hectolitres; fixed it. Owen× 14:49, 28 September 2016 (UTC)Reply