Talk:Smoking gun
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Gesture? edit
Doesn't the term "smoking gun" also exist as a gesture? When you blow across the tip of your finger, to signify doing something with style, isn't that a smoking gun, too? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.106.19.89 (talk) 03:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` I thought, too, that there was a mystery story in which the person found holding the smoking gun was not the one who shot it, making the item anything but incontrovertible proof. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 1Bower2Birdn (talk • contribs) 01:37, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Cite edit
The introduction to the article should include citation(s). Also, the remainder of the article consists almost entirely of one quote. To create a more balanced article, more material and more citations should be added.--Solomonfromfinland (talk) 05:33, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Copyright violation edit
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When did this arise as a metaphor? edit
The article suggested that Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes story The Adventure of the Gloria Scott was the first to use "smoking gun" as a metaphor for evidence of clear guilt. It wasn't. Conan Doyle's use was not metaphorical: the character literally had a smoking gun (actually "a smoking pistol"), and the cited reference does not suggest otherwise.
This leaves open when it was first used as a metaphor for clear and convincing evidence of obvious guilt.
The OED's first such citation is a 1974 New Yorker article, with the sentence "Some are still searching for what has come to be termed 'the murder weapon'—or 'the smoking gun'—the definitive piece of evidence that the President committed a crime." But it does not assert that this is the first such metaphorical usage, and I suspect the usage predates 1974 by quite a bit. TJRC (talk) 22:17, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a dictionary edit
This article should be deleted. Kotika98 (talk) 20:43, 5 July 2023 (UTC)