Talk:Sleeping Giant (Connecticut)
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editThe article mentions that Sleeping Giant is an active volcano. The only reference I could find to this online was in the April Fool's day issue of the Hamden High School newspaper http://www.hamden.k12.ct.us/uploaded/HHS_DOCS/dial/Page_1.pdf - perhaps a not very authoritative source? A geology class at Yale that discusses Sleeping Giant dates its volcanic activity to the days of the breakup of Pangea, hundreds of millions of years ago. http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1995/5/95.05.01.x.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Judith.d (talk • contribs) 14:57, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
The ridge system and the state park are one article; i've added material about the volunteer support group of the same name, that actually started the park & continues heavy involvement. But is that group mentioned excessively? --Jerzy(t) 09:40, 2004 May 5 (UTC)
- No, I think you did a great job. There doesn't really exist enough information to make separate pages, so this is probably the Right Way to do it. - Plutor 15:40, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- I see that these comments are over a year old, but I've edited the material in question for wording, and I'm concerned about the last sentence, which was somewhat unclear as originally stated. Is the statement as it reads now accurate? Chick Bowen 03:48, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry to be so slow in responding. It was accurate in both cases, but there's an excellent chance that it's not verifiable, and (barring verification) it's probably good that it's since been removed.
The situation is that the CFPA members who are trail managers for each area with a Blue-Blazed Trail (and maybe other areas) report their vol-work stats to each other, & SGSP is always at the top. Like edit count at WP, it's easy to read too much into the statistic, and they may have decided that it would be counter-productive to publish what they don't mind talking abt in small groups. So unless someone finds verification, it doesn't belong in the article. Thanks!
--Jerzy•t 22:21, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry to be so slow in responding. It was accurate in both cases, but there's an excellent chance that it's not verifiable, and (barring verification) it's probably good that it's since been removed.
Expanded and moved from Sleeping Giant State Park
editDid a major overhaul of the material originally posted at Sleeping Giant State Park and placed it here (as the landform is broader and older than the park); redirected the park page here, however, the park page could be re-initiated with information specific to the park (without creating redundancy and duplicating all the information posted here).
Finally, there was a long open letter posted on the talk page for Sleeping Giant State Park. It was part of an old edit war by two Wikipedians that had been cut and pasted into the talk pages of a number of different Connecticut articles. Those interested in it can see it archived at Talk:Ragged Mountain (Connecticut)/Archive 1
--Pgagnon999 (talk) 16:46, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
CT Walk Book
editThe 2nd ref is to the 17th edn of this work, stated as "undated". If only for the reason that a dateless ref detracts from face validity, we need to verify that everything based on it could rely instead on the 2007 19th edn. (The 18th, 1997, says that the 5th was 1965, and BTW the increase in quality in the 18th and 19th suggests increased effort per edition as the reason for the slower updates now than (mmm...) 13 in 32 years, or 2.5 yrs/edn.) If someone else with the 19th doesn't do so first, i may get around to it. Note that both pp. 224-225 and 257-260 can be relevant, along with the associated maps. At a glance, nothing there supports the WPA mention; i'll try to get around to checkig the 18th, but perhaps a separate source is needed.
--Jerzy•t 21:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
360 degrees
editMy recollection is closer to 7 octants than all 8 (unless there's some specification about the trees being bare). I'm fact-tagging that.
--Jerzy•t 21:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Parking
editI pretty much rewrote; the issues are in two main areas:
- Parking fee amount:
- It said $7 & $10, IIRC, but it's much more complicated: the annual fee to park at any and all parks & forests is $50, if you're under 65. After 4pm, $4. You can park legally on the paved shoulder for a good distance, when the fee is in effect.
If you don't like crowds (which are enormous by hiking standards, near that parking lot and picnic area, during the paid-parking times!), there are 6 obvious unpaved parking areas, off the road and on state land, at both trailheads for the Red Circle and Red Square trails, at the point that is at E trailheads of the Violet, Green, White, Orange, and Yellow trails, and at the point that is the N trailhead of the Red Diamond and Red Hexagon Trails; there are a few other places where at least one car can be accommodated safely on the shoulder.
There's a free lot across Whitney Avenue, in sight of where you can enter the park on the Blue Trail.
If you were carrying a picnic basket and trailing ambulatory kids, you'd have about a half mile in woods and on grass before getting to the picnic area, and never even have to use your hands to balance except when crossing the guard rail in order to walk along the flat Mt. Carmel Avenue road bridge to cross the, what, 30-foot wide?, Mill River.
- It said $7 & $10, IIRC, but it's much more complicated: the annual fee to park at any and all parks & forests is $50, if you're under 65. After 4pm, $4. You can park legally on the paved shoulder for a good distance, when the fee is in effect.
- "High" parking fee:
- that's relative & PoV, and at many CT parks the fee is no more for parking than the fee for the $10 in-room-bar candy bars is for candy. The parking supports personnel costs (safety, vandalism-inhibition, and litter-remediation, and if you think it's high, you are confusing a barrier to discount with an unavoidable cost.
--Jerzy•t 23:18, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- that's relative & PoV, and at many CT parks the fee is no more for parking than the fee for the $10 in-room-bar candy bars is for candy. The parking supports personnel costs (safety, vandalism-inhibition, and litter-remediation, and if you think it's high, you are confusing a barrier to discount with an unavoidable cost.
Image needs replacement
editHello all...
An image used in the article, specifically Image:Gianttower.jpg, has a little bit of a licensing issue. The image was uploaded back when the rules around image uploading were less restrictive. It is presumed that the uploader was willing to license the picture under the GFDL license but was not clear in that regard. As such, the image, while not at risk of deletion, is likely not clearly licensed to allow for free use in any future use of this article. If anyone has an image that can replace this, or can go take one and upload it, it would be best.
You have your mission, take your camera and start clicking.--Jordan 1972 (talk) 00:54, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
- Heh. As I write there is no image of The Sleeping Giant as he appears (but there's a view from his chin, which is a wiki wtf). 24.27.31.170 (talk) 23:03, 20 August 2011 (UTC) Eric
Disambiguation
editPlease add disambiguation link to the Sleeping Giant mountain in Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.5.36.116 (talk) 22:13, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
Map
editNeeds a better map, the existing map is completeley uninformative.Paulhummerman (talk) 18:20, 16 October 2022 (UTC)