Talk:Slavic Native Faith and Christianity
Latest comment: 1 year ago by Mellohi! in topic Requested move 21 June 2022
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Requested move 7 June 2022 edit
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
 | It was proposed in this section that Slavic Native Faith and mono-ideologies be renamed and moved to Mono-ideology.
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Not moved. See consensus below in opposition to the proposed title. Thanks and kudos to editors for your input; good health to all! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'r there 19:47, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
Not moved. See consensus below in opposition to the proposed title. Thanks and kudos to editors for your input; good health to all! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'r there 19:47, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
Slavic Native Faith and mono-ideologies → Mono-ideology – Nobody else talks about mono ideologies, this would be a more concise title. Immanuelle 💗 (please tag me) 16:12, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose – I have found mention of the term "mono-ideology" in other contexts, part of the broader Russian philosophical and politological milieu (where it refers to all Western post-Enlightenment totalising ideologies in general) of which Rodnovery either may or may not be part; therefore, I think that the article should be restricted to the Rodnover perspective on the topic. Through a rapid search among scholarly sources online, you will find that it is used in various other contexts not strictly pertaining to religion (e.g. Starčević, Anđel; Kapović, Mate; Sarić, Daliborka (2019). "The One and Only: Prescriptivism and Mono-ideologies of Language".).--Æo (talk) 18:57, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Æo can you give the Russian word for mono-ideology? That will help with verification Immanuelle 💗 (please tag me) 20:14, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Immanuelle: It's моноидеология.--Æo (talk) 22:33, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for it. I added it to the article Immanuelle 💗 (please tag me) 06:16, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose, but consider moving the article back to "Slavic Native Faith and Christianity", and turning the content about monoideology into one aspect of that. A quick search shows that the term "monoideology" appears in some works about the Soviet Union and in 19th-century writings by and about James Braid. It might be notable enough to have its own article, or it could redirect to Braid, but nonetheless it exists separately from the subject of this article. Ffranc (talk) 11:46, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- I think the coverage of this article is still broader than merely SNF and Christianity, since, according to Aitamurto 2016, by "mono-ideologies" Rodnovers generally mean Abrahamic religions and any secular Western ideologies they consider productions of these religions, including Enlightenment rationalism, Marxism, liberal capitalism, et al.--Æo (talk) 23:31, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Ffranc@Æo can we close this discussion? I don't know the formal procedure aside from being bold Immanuelle 💗 (please tag me) 16:44, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
- I think the coverage of this article is still broader than merely SNF and Christianity, since, according to Aitamurto 2016, by "mono-ideologies" Rodnovers generally mean Abrahamic religions and any secular Western ideologies they consider productions of these religions, including Enlightenment rationalism, Marxism, liberal capitalism, et al.--Æo (talk) 23:31, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Requested move 21 June 2022 edit
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The result of the move request was: Moved on recognizability and precision grounds. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 06:32, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Slavic Native Faith and mono-ideologies → Slavic Native Faith and Christianity – This article is mostly not about mono-ideologies but instead Christianity and the title should be more accessible to unfamiliar readers Immanuelle 💗 (please tag me) 16:40, 21 June 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. Spekkios (talk) 22:49, 28 June 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 18:47, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- Support. It's what the article originally was about, and still what it primarily is about. Ffranc (talk) 11:03, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- relisting comment given the recent previous move discussion, and to get broader participation, I have advertised this move discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Neopaganism, and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Russia. Regards, —usernamekiran (talk) 18:47, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- What is supposed to be the relationship between this article and mono-ideology? Srnec (talk) 04:04, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.