Talk:Slave Ship

Requested move 28 September 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved as proposed. Most oppose !votes are relating to issues of disambiguating with a now-deleted 2010 film article. There wasn't much objection to the overall proposal of moving the dab page  — Amakuru (talk) 10:20, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

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• Slave ship (disambiguation) → Slave Ship
• Slave Ship (1937 film) → Slave Ship (film)

– There are eight entries listed upon the Slave ship (disambiguation) page, with six of those being proper names using uppercase for each "S". Thus there is no good reason for "Slave Ship" redirecting to "Slave ship (disambiguation)". As for Slave Ship (1937 film), the only other analogous entry is The Slave Ship (film). If consensus skews towards leaving Slave Ship (1937 film) as is and moving The Slave Ship (film) → The Slave Ship (2010 film), I will also support such an option. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 22:07, 28 September 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Steel1943 (talk) 17:28, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose as to the DAB page move per WP:Redirect. Alternative capitalizations are usually redirected to the primary topic. Rreagan007 (talk) 05:22, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
• Support 1st, oppose 2nd. Per WP:DABNAME all other uses are in title case other than the primary topic and per WP:DIFFCAPS generally alternative capitalizations generally shouldn't be redirected to the primary topic. Regarding the 2nd move yes the 2010 film has "The" but per WP:SMALLDETAILS the title with "The" is the simplest form so probably doesn't distinguish. The 1937 film has 221 views compared with 144[[1]] for the 2010 film, probably not enough to be worth the likely PDAB. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:12, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

If the main title headers for Slave Ship (1937 film) as well as for The Slave Ship (film) remain unchanged, should the redlink representing incomplete disambiguation Slave Ship (film) become a redirect to the Slave Ship / Slave ship (disambiguation) page? —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 23:28, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Yes, with {{R from incomplete disambiguation}}. Crouch, Swale (talk) 08:20, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Support both now that the 2010 film has been deleted. Crouch, Swale (talk) 06:24, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

• Comment. For another example of film titles with and without the prefix article "The", such as the above Slave Ship (film) / The Slave Ship (film), the currently active discussion at Talk:The Angel (2018 American film)#Requested move 23 September 2022 features Angel (film) / The Angel (film), but due to the fact that there are additional Angel film titles, both of these incomplete disambiguations redirect to the Angel (disambiguation)#Films page. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 04:21, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose both and move The Slave Ship (film) back to The Slave Ship (2010 film). Makes everything clearer, which is our main goal here. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:54, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose and move The Slave Ship (film) back to The Slave Ship (2010 film) per Necrothesp (I guess I'll AfD it right now so to avoid the issue). "The" prepending the title of an obscure Japanese film does not really disambiguate anything. No such user (talk) 09:42, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

  After deletion of the 2010 film, Support 2nd, weak oppose 1st. Not a fan of SMALLDETAILS for a dab page. No such user (talk) 10:56, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

• Comment. It should be noted that in the wake of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Slave Ship (film), Slave Ship (1937 film) is now the sole Wikipedia entry for a film bearing such a title. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 22:58, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

  I can now support both, other oppose !votes are probably moot now. Crouch, Swale (talk) 06:24, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

• Move Slave Ship (1937 film) to Slave Ship (film) and move Slave ship (disambiguation) to Slave Ship. Shwcz (talk) 15:05, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.