Talk:Sixteen-segment display
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Images
editNo Images? 63.255.174.238 06:46, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Propeller?
editI had also heard this (or the alphabet used on it) referred to as a "propellor" or "propeller" display, but I can't find references.--Justfred (talk) 21:22, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Controller chip
editAlso, this display can commonly use a 10937P/10957P controller chip; not sure if this is relevant to the article but it was useful to me! These, as well as 14-segment, are also available as Nixie displays.--Justfred (talk) 16:47, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Date of invention
editDate of invention? when did this kind of display come into popular use? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.23.212.252 (talk) 00:51, 2008 April 21 (UTC)
Williams Hyperball used them in 1981. Later pinball games used them starting in 1985 / 1986 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joe The Dragon (talk • contribs) 02:43, 2008 June 30 (UTC)
French diacritics??
editWhat about French, German, Spanish diacritics and accents on top of letters, etc.?--Sonjaaa (talk) 15:44, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Displayable characters
editThis, along with the 7 and 14 segment display articles, should have a list of displayable (and distinguishable) characters. In particular what can 16 segment do that 14 cannot. There is an animation, but that's less useful that static images IMHO. Such images would be easy enough to create - start from a template and just use the flood fill tool in one's choice of editor (ideally vector graphics) - but finding sources for the shapes used in reality may be a bit trickier. 131.111.245.195 (talk) 17:12, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- I agree. Is there anything the 16 segment display can do better than the 14 segment display? All of the examples in the current version of this sixteen-segment display article would work just as well on a 14 segment display -- they don't make use of the extra flexibility provided by those 2 extra segments. I think this article should show some images of a few characters ("pound currency" and "degree symbol"[1]) that do use the extra flexibility of the 16 segment display. --68.0.124.33 (talk) 04:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
other displays that happen to have 16 segments
editShould we mention that some people use the term "sixteen-segment display" to indicate a display intended to display the numbers 1 to 100 -- i.e., two seven-segment digits and a two-segment "1" digit (total: 2*7+2 = 16 segments) on a single display? --68.0.124.33 (talk) 04:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
16 segment display as a 3x3 grid, or bigger segment grids (with or without diagonals)?
editSome 3-in-1 music systems in late 90s featured a grid display, I don't remember the size of the grid on the one I saw, nor the brand/model. The display had a diagonal-less grid that was at least 5 blocks tall and 6 or 7 blocks wide (each block being surrounded by 4 orthogonal segments). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yura87 (talk • contribs) 23:19, 2013 November 7 (UTC)
Drivers/Multiplex?
editShould we include a section on how these are driven and whether they need to be multiplexed or not? MordeKyle (talk) 20:24, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
Missing display types.
editThere are a couple of missing display types.
Here is a link to a Russian EL type, not sure how many segments.
http://www.155la3.ru/images/iel_o_vi_1.jpeg http://www.155la3.ru/electroluminescent.htm
There is also a Nimo type of CRT display that has shadow masks usually for numbers only with symbols sometimes but full alpha types were considered. A competitive type was also available on the other side of the iron curtain. Probably belongs on a decade display page.
http://mcnally.cc/clock.htm http://mcnally.cc/pics/nimo.gif
Then there is a type of display that uses a bunch of abstract looking segment shapes to make up alphanumerics. I thought it was called the HIX standard but not sure. I have seen them on airport information displays and elevator floor readouts and here are some samples. Not sure how many segments they have but quite a few. Can make easy to read characters at cost of more segment drivers.
http://www.underware.nl/custom_type/kone/ http://www.underware.nl/_media/custom_type/kone/pics/generate/KONE-02.svg http://www.hesoled.com/elevator-lcd-display.html http://www.hesoled.com/uploads/Elevator-LCD-Display_2824.jpg
Idyllic press (talk) 22:56, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Found the display technology patent. It is a HIX8 type as these characters overlaid are able to generate all the others.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20050104803A1/en
Another very interesting numeric display from a Korean patent is also kind of neat.
https://patents.google.com/patent/KR20130064201A/ko
The best
editI think that the best is:
(a = a1 + a2, d = d1 + d2, g = g1 + g2)
- 0: a, b, c, d, e, f, j, k
- 1: b, c, j
- 2: a, b, d, e, g
- 3: a, d, j, m
- 4: b, c, f, g
- 5: a, c, d, f, g
- 6: a, c, d, e, f, g
- 7: a, j, l
- 8: a, b, c, d, e, f, g
- 9: a, b, c, d, f, g
- A: b, c, g2, j, k
- B: a, d, e, f, g1, j, m
- C: a, d, e, f
- D: a, b, c, d, i, l
- E: a, d, e, f, g
- F: a, e, f, g
- G: a, c, d, e, f, g2
- H: b, c, e, f, g
- I: a, d, i, l
- J: a, d1, e, i, l
- K: e, f, g1, j, m
- L: d, e, f
- M: b, c, e, f, h, j
- N: b, c, e, f, h, m
- O: a, b, c, d, e, f
- P: a, b, e, f, g
- Q: a, b, c, d, e, f, m
- R: a, b, e, f, g, m
- S: a, d, h, m
- T: a, i, l
- U: b, c, d, e, f
- V: e, f, j, k
- W: b, c, e, f, k, m
- X: h, j, k, m
- Y: h, j, l
- Z: a, d, j, k