Talk:Six flags over Texas

Funny

I find it funny that the confederate flag is more centric than the american flag

Historically Accurate?

Someone needs to provide sources for the claims in this article. I don't think it is in dispute that 6 "major" nations have had sovereignty over various parts of Texas at various times, that is what the "six flags" mean. The article's claim that other "short-lived governmental units and armies" have existed that make the "six flags" notion historically inaccurate seems a bit dubious.--JW1805 21:00, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

I deleted the word "official" regarding the three CSA national flags because the Stars and Bars (first national) was never officially adopted by the CSA congress as a de jure flag, although it certainly was de facto the first national flag. Fiavsecgen 15:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

The entire idea behind the "Six flags over Texas" was that these were the six NATIONS that had authority over what is now Texas. Its not whatever group happened to have a little slice over it at the time (with the exception of the Republic of Rio Grande which has been incorporated into the lore and history of the Rio Grande Valley.

I'm working on sources and expansion for the article now. Leobold1 (talk) 17:18, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Article content

Does this actually need its own article? I've been considering redirecting it to History of Texas for a while now. History of Texas already lists the countries that governed Texas, and I think a bit of expansion there about the slogan would probably be good enough. Another alternative would be to rename it History of the Texas flag and discuss the flags instead of the countries and Texas history. As it stands, though, it's essentially a watered-down version of History of TexasKaranacs (talk) 18:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I think it is. The history of Texas is directly linked to these Six Flags. There are histories of the Flag of the United States, Flags of the Confederate States of America, the Flag of Denmark, all the Flags of the U.S. states, and City flags. All these are part of the history of these entities, and deserve their own article. I'm working on completing the history of these flags, and trying to keep it at the point that it just whets the appetite, rather than being the end all, be all of the History of Texas. Leobold1 (talk) 00:11, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

If it's actually the history of the flags, with a bit of Texas history thrown in as background, then I think this would be a very useful article (though should possibly be renamed). If it focuses too much on the history of the territory and not the flags themselves, then I think it would be redundant. Good luck! Karanacs (talk) 13:34, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

That's my plan. See Six flags over Texas#Flag of the Republic of Rio Grande as a basic outline. Some may go two paragraphs, but that's my limit at this time. Eventually, I want this upgraded to at least Good Article status, but that's in the future. Leobold1 (talk) 20:17, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Name

Observation: We have two articles with essentially the same name: Six flags over Texas and Six Flags over Texas. IMHO this violates the spirit of WP:Precision. I know that both articles have been around for a while but here's a proposal (which I'm sure I'll be flogged for):

• Move Six flags over Texas to Six flags over Texas (expression), or something like that.
• Make Six flags over Texas redirect to Six Flags over Texas.
• Create a disambig page Six flags over Texas (disambiguation).

--Mcorazao (talk) 22:03, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

In my opinion, this article should become the basis for something like History of the Texas flag, with a hatnote from the theme park article. Alternatively, I'd support making this a smaller section of History of Texas. Karanacs (talk) 22:07, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Or perhaps, List of former national flags of Texas. Karanacs (talk) 22:09, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

I think History of the Texas flag would be a misnomer for this particular article. That is, "History of the Texas flag" really implies how Texas came up with its own flag, not what the flags were of states that held sovereignty over Texas. Making it a section of History of Texas is ok with me if that's a general concensus. Truthfully, though, I think there is a small bit of merit to having an article on the "concept" of the six flags since it is such a popular historical concept in the state (i.e. it is notable). I say "small bit of merit" because, of course, WP is not a dictionary, or a glossary, and this borders on a dictionary article (i.e. that fine line between defining an expression and explaining a concept).

List of former national flags of Texas or something similar could be ok.

--Mcorazao (talk) 00:34, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

• The concept of these flags being "former national flags of Texas" is quite dubious as well; the fleurs de lis flag of the French royal family was hardly a national flag of Texas, for example. The whole concept of this is dubious, but the current title reflects the content better. 84.92.117.93 (talk) 17:15, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Northern Texas part of Louisiana

It appears that the Northern parts of Texas were part of the Louisiana Territory. So that means Northern Texas was owned by France from when they took it over from Spain in 1800 until 1803 when France sold it to the US. The French Tricolor flag could be put on the page. My sources are from some maps of the Spanish and French Louisiana territories. --24.147.1.197 (talk) 17:41, 23 March 2014 (UTC)Jacob Chesley

Origin

The actual phrase "six flags over Texas" seems to originate with the amusement park in 1961. However, the mosaic with six flags in the capitol dates to 1936. What about the 6 seals on the capitol facade? Where and when did the tendency to display the 6 flags emerge? One suspects it was always a cheeky way to normalize the confederate flag. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:547:500:4FC5:B8F8:3DF5:48E8:240C (talk) 22:04, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Six nations?

The article states that the six flags represent six nations. However, only five nations were listed. The Confederacy was not a nation, it was simply a collection of rebels. This has always been the position of the United States, and confirmed in Texas v. White. Furthermore, Texas was a part of the United States in that time -- there was no point at which Texas ever left or could have left the Union. Daniel J. Hakimi (talk) 16:51, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

I think if we just add a note that says "Six flags over Texas" is the slogan used to describe the six sovereign countries^S

== Notes ==

S.^ CAS was a unconsidered state

I do not know how to add a note but I think this would work. LuxembourgLover (talk) 18:44, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

The CSA was a de facto nation, regardless of recognition by the USA, and Texas was one of the original seven states in the CSA.

VectorEyes (talk) 15:24, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Video film six years 18 204.18.120.70 (talk) 21:41, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Spanish flag over the Álamo

Where is the Spanish flag on https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Under_six_flags,_Alamo,_San_Antonio,_Texas.jpg ? --189.217.89.14 (talk) 15:37, 7 March 2022 (UTC)