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Latest comment: 12 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

where exactly the song was used in oceans twelve? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.239.48.95 (talk) 18:32, 21 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

A different version of the song is heard briefly on the car radio early in the Australian movie Dirty Deeds. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.199.172.179 (talk) 03:53, 27 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Ray Bradbury???

Latest comment: 9 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

Not too sure about this: "Sinnerman" is referenced though not by name in Ray Bradbury's short story "And The Rock Cried Out", which takes its title from one of the lyrics."

While it might be a Sinnerman reference, it could also just be a biblical allusion. In other words, both the title of the story and the lyric are drawing from the same text. I would like to see some sort of citation to be sure that Ray Bradbury really did draw the name of the title from the song.

--W. T. Perkins (talk) 23:18, 20 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

It would be a helpful addition to the article to set out the song's biblical allusions. Is "the rock cried out" in the bible? I don't know the answer to that. Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:58, 21 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

PS: It appears that those words don't appear in the bible - but, there was a spiritual in the 1920s, "No Hiding Place Down Here", containing the line "The rock cried out, “No hiding place / There’s no hiding place down here". - [1]. Bradbury may have got his title from there. Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:43, 21 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

PPS: Bradbury's story was published in 1953, before the Les Baxter version (or Nina Simone's). So, the title would not have come from any recording called "Sinner Man" - though of course it may have come from the 1928 recording of the spiritual, or an oral tradition. The claim that it derived from the song "Sinner Man" was unsourced anyway, so I've removed it. Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:06, 21 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Nina Simone

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

In the Nina Simone section, would it be appropriate to mention that a portion of her version is on the soundtrack for the 1999 version of the movie "The Thomas Crown Affair"? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0155267/soundtrack/?ref_=tt_trv_snd That would be the reference. Gms3591 (talk) 07:08, 27 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Traditional or Credited

Latest comment: 2 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

The song is described in the lede as a traditional song, which usually means a song that has been handed down through the years/centuries with no way to know the original authors. Yet in the body of the article two-three writers are credited, though there is some hand waving about similarity of lyrics. It cannot be a traditional spiritual and also be able to clearly trace its origins to certain writers (who may or may not have lifted a line or two from a 1928 song). Are we going to out and out call the credited writers liars or plagiarists? Sir Rhosis (talk) 00:41, 8 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

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