Talk:Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire

Various concerns

Under the heading of Trivia on this page, there is a line that says "Next door to the tattoo parlor is Dr. Sitsofsky Dermatology Clinic. A sign in the window reads, "Tattoos removed by laser"." I have examined my Region 4 (Australian) Season 1 box set DVD copy, and have not been able to locate this reference. Does it actually exist? Is my DVD missing something?

Spq 01:11, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

I remember this gag being used in an episode of the simpsons, but i don't know if it was this episode. User:Wikiwarlock

Why is the Trivia section filled with pointers like, "Marge hides the jar of money in her hair"? Why is this all considered Trivia?

I totally agree, this article is filled with so much crap its unbelievable. I'd delete it all but we'd only be left with about five lines (and I also want to go to bed).--Santahul 00:24, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

This line, "The series was originally planned to premier in the fall of 1989, but due to major problems with the animation of "Some Enchanted Evening", it instead began mid-season 1990 with this episode.", is confusing, and I am considering rewriting it. The last part of the line, "...it instead began mid-season 1990 with this episode.", seems to refer to "it" the series. I think the line should instead say, "The series was originally planned to premier in the fall of 1989, but due to major problems with the animation of "Some Enchanted Evening" which aired mid season in May 1990, the series instead started in December 1989 with this episode." --Trickse 17:25, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

I edited the line since there was no disagrement regarding the verbage. --Trickse 19:56, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

No couch gag in infobox

Could somebody please add a couch gag to the info box ? Animereadabouter2 20:27, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

The reason is there is no couch gag --JAL 200 15:10, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Was there a CHALKBOARD gag? 203.11.71.124 (talk) 05:59, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

No chalkboard gag either. --Maitch (talk) 11:59, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Minor change to similar plots section

In the movie Christmas Vacation; Clark does actually get a "bonus". Though he had been anxious about it's tardiness, on Christmas eve he is notified of his membership in a monthly jam and jelly club. Cousin Eddie:"Thats the gift that keeps on givin, all year round Clark." Anynobody 07:55, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Eighth episode?

Can somebody please clarify what it means by "eighth episode produced". Was it the first one broadcast but eighth with regards to the order the studio made them or what? It's just that I click the link to season one and it confirms that this is the first episode in the season. It all seems a little confusing.--Santahul 00:18, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

It was the first aired but the eighth made. Seven other episodes had already been made before this one.

No title sequence

Some mention should be made that there is no opening title sequence (hence no blackboard, sax or couch gag). RoyBatty42 21:23, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Missing ref

Just wanted you to know.--Rmky87 18:07, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Where? -- Scorpion 20:03, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

GA Review

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   a (fair representation): b (all significant views):

5. It is stable.

   

6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.

   a (tagged and captioned): b lack of images (does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):

7. Overall:

   a Pass/Fail:

I am currently putting the article on hold, and I will pass it as soon as the following concerns are addressed:

• 1 (b) Structure:

1. With encouragement from Bart Homer decides to gamble his paycheck and takes Bart with him to the dog track. --- Needs some punctuation to be legible.
2. Although Barney has told them to bet on a dog named Whirlwind, Homer decides to bet on a dog named Santa's Little Helper. It should be made clear why he changes his mind. It's not only the name of the dog, it's because the odds of him winning are 99:1 or something, and Homer believes that this is a sure bet. (Something like that, right?)
3. ...merry christmas. Christmas should be capitalized.
4. ...Matt Groenings experience in the second grade when he... Missing apostrophe on "Groenings".

• 2 (a) References:

1. You should cite airdate in lead, as it is cited in the infobox. I'm a sucker for citations. If I see a sentence that might not be true (such as the exact airdate of a television show), I want the citation right in front of my face.
2. Fox was very nervous about the show because they were unsure that they could sustain the audiences attention for the duration of the episode. This needs a citation as well. How do you know that Fox was nervous?

Address the concerns and post a message here that you have done so. I will pass the article without reservation at that point. Good luck! =) –King Bee ^{(T • C)} 18:00, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

• • Done and done. Thanks for the help. -- Scorpion 18:12, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I have passed the article. Good job! –King Bee ^{(T • C)} 18:47, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

First appearances

Shouldn't everyone who appears in this episode be considered to making their first appearance. Are the Tracy Ullman shorts considered canon? Lenzar 22:20, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if they are canon or not, the important thing is that this episode is not the first televised appearance of the Simpson family, which is why they aren't included. -- Scorpion 22:26, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

The Simpsons Xmas Book

I want to add something about The Simpsons Xmas Book, which was a novelisation of this story using large images and little pictures of the characters with their dialogue next to them, which included several scenes not used in the televised version, but I can't think where to put it.

GA Sweeps (Pass)

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Regards, MASEM 05:15, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

As a comment, given that this was the "premiere" Simpsons episode, is there not any other reception information for this episode? This would be likely really help strengthen the article. --MASEM 05:15, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

did Chris Collins do the voices of Mr. Burns and Moe in this episode?

Did Christopher Collins do Burn's voice in this episode along with Moe, or were the current actors already in by then?Tallicfan20 (talk) 01:19, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

During the closing credits, it lists Harry Shearer (which was one of the voice actors for Burns), but Christopher Collins is not listed. Therefore I think that for this episode, Mr. Burns was voiced by Harry Shearer. Redterror117 (talk) 13:34, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

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Orphaned references in Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "BBC":

• From Life on the Fast Lane: Martyn, Warren; Wood, Adrian (2000). "Jacques To Be Wild". BBC. Retrieved 2007-05-06.
• From Bart the General: Martyn, Warren; Wood, Adrian (2000). "Bart the General". BBC. Retrieved 2008-01-14.
• From Sweet Seymour Skinner's Baadasssss Song: Martyn, Warren; Wood, Adrian (2000). "Sweet Seymour Skinner's Baadasssss Song". BBC. Retrieved 2008-04-12.
• From Marge Simpson: "Marge gracing Playboy mag cover". BBC News. October 10, 2009. Retrieved October 10, 2009.
• From There's No Disgrace Like Home: Martyn, Warren; Wood, Adrian (2000). "There's No Disgrace Like Home". BBC. Archived from the original on June 23, 2003. Retrieved January 14, 2008.
• From The Simpsons (franchise): "The Simpsons get postage stamps". BBC News. 2009-04-01. Retrieved 2009-04-01.
• From Two Dozen and One Greyhounds: Martyn, Warren; Wood, Adrian (2000). "Two Dozen and One Greyhounds". BBC. Retrieved 2008-03-27.
• From Some Enchanted Evening (The Simpsons): Martyn, Warren; Wood, Adrian (2000). "Some Enchanted Evening". BBC. Retrieved 2007-02-12.
• From The Simpsons: "The Simpsons get postage stamps". BBC News Online. April 1, 2009. Archived from the original on April 2, 2009. Retrieved April 1, 2009.
• From Marge Be Not Proud: Martyn, Warren; Wood, Adrian (2000). "Marge Be Not Proud". BBC. Retrieved 2008-03-06.
• From Dog of Death: Martyn, Warren; Wood, Adrian (2000). "Dog of Death". BBC. Retrieved 2009-06-07.
• From Bart the Genius: Martyn, Warren; Wood, Adrian (2000). "Bart the Genius". BBC. Retrieved 2007-08-05.
• From Media in The Simpsons: Martyn, Warren; Adrian Wood (2000). "Sideshow Bob Roberts". BBC. Retrieved October 29, 2011.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 01:10, 14 September 2020 (UTC)