Talk:Simonetta Lein

COI and promotionalism tags

Per a request at User talk:Sulfurboy#Page Issues, I am happy to explain why I tagged the article for a potential conflict of interest and promotional language. On the COI point an IP editor commented here that "Fashion icon is just a title I was given multiple times and it was explained with sources", making it clear that they are the article subject. They subsequently made a significant contribution to the article content. Then, over at Commons, Putela wrote that "The image is my property and doesn't have any copyright issue". If that is true, then Putela must either be the photographer or someone who the copyright of this publicity image was transferred to, which suggests a conflict of interest.

As for the promotional language, this is how the article looked when I applied the tag. Wording such as "frequentely graces the runways of New York Fashion Week as seen for Art Heart Fashion" is pretty clearly promotional. I see that this particular instance has now been removed, but I will leave it to others to judge whether the rest of the article is now sufficiently neutral. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:49, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you-this page was written by an external editor, it was up for two years. With no problems. Was deleted without discussion as an other Wiki editor stated. The phrases you see as promotional were added by the editor as he thought to put it in a nice style. Though wr asked guidance from Wikipedia and intervene in order to clean any possible promotional issue. I thank you for your time, please go and see all the sources that are backing what is written. The editor who wrote it even tried to make something similar to other Wiki pages. At today what is written are only facts, I received authorization by the photographer and he already sent the release. Please check if there is anything you think is still inappropriate and we will edit it. After that we don't know what to do anymore as this page really states facts, was originally done by a third party and re fixed by a third party. So at today, can we fix whatever has to be fixed and erase the page issues? As we really would like to have this solved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Putela (talk • contribs) 22:15, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

This is starting to sound like undisclosed paid editing. Putela, you refer to "we". Is your account being shared by several people? Cordless Larry (talk) 22:23, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

My husband and I wanted to do this as a public service. Just tell me what to do in order to fix this as we do not intend to go on and on. We are trying to help stating facts about a person who is backed by major sources. We do not want to create her any problem. Again the page was done by another editor two years ago, we just fixed it to make it appear as other Wikipedia articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Putela (talk • contribs) 22:51, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

We're sorry, but ...

Simonetta,

We're sorry, but you seem to have just misunderstood our purpose and our rules. Hiring somebody to add information about yourself goes against just about everything we stand for. The entire article looks promotional by our standards. If somebody contacted you saying that they could put an article about you on Wikipedia, please just let us know. Perhaps the best place to send this info is at WP:COIN

You've asked above "What should I do?"

• 1st, give up on the idea that we'll have an article about you.
• Post here something like "please delete this article". That will save everybody a lot of time.
• I'll put a "Prod" notice at the top of the article (if this is still possible). Don't do anything and the article should be gone within 10 days.

I'm sorry if this seems harsh, or if somebody has misled you, but the fact remains that this is not the type of article that we want to have on Wikipedia.

Sincerely,

Smallbones_(smalltalk) 18:00, 1 September 2017 (UTC)