Talk:Silvio Meier/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Ealdgyth (talk · contribs) 00:08, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

I'll get to this review in the next few days. Ealdgyth (talk) 00:08, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for taking this on! From tomorrow onwards, I'll most likely be offline for several days Mujinga (talk) 12:02, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

• I randomly googled three phrases and only turned up Wikipedia mirrors. Earwig's tool shows no sign of copyright violation.
• Source check this source and this one support the "With others, he ran a radical library at the church at Zionskirchplatz and published a samizdat newsletter called Infoblatt mOAningstar (the capital letters "OA" referencing Offene Arbeit [de])." The second source also supports "Silvio Meier was born in 1965 and grew up in the East German town of Quedlinburg." and "The following year it was received by the campaign Stand Up Against Racism." (with some help from Google translate)
• Career:
  • "He trained as a toolmaker.[2] He moved to East Berlin in 1986 and quickly became involved in the punk movement and oppositional politics." A bit clunky - suggest rewording to "He trained as a toolmaker[2] before moving to East Berlin in 1986 and quickly becoming involved in the punk movement and oppositional politics."
    • rejigged Mujinga (talk) 10:24, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
  • Suggest a quick explanation here of "samizdat" so you don't lose readers to other articles
    • I think I'm ok with the click through here Mujinga (talk) 10:24, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
  • "He helped to set up the" maybe "helped to found"?
    • changed! Mujinga (talk) 10:27, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
  • "clandestine concert in the Zionskirchplatz church" don't need this duplicate link for Zionskirchplatz ... you've just linked it earlier in the same paragraph
    • good point Mujinga (talk) 10:27, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
  • "with Die Firma supporting the West Berlin band Element of Crime." I think you mean "with the band Die Firma opening and with the West Berlin band Element of Crime headlining the concert."?
    • yup, rejigged Mujinga (talk) 10:27, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
  • When did this concert take place?
    • added Mujinga (talk) 10:32, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
  • A bit more on the squatting movement would not be bad here - I gather that it wasn't just that he needed somewhere to live, but that he was involved in a political movement that involved squatting in East Berlin after the wall fell?
    • Yes good point I've added a sentence to show that the occupation of Schreinerstrasse was part of a broader struggle. Must have been exciting times! Mujinga (talk) 11:40, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
• Death:
  • "youth club named after Judith Auer in Lichtenberg" why is who it was named for important? Either it has some bearing on Meier's death and aftermath or we should leave the detail out as unneccesary.
    • Two reasons I suppose: firstly it specifies which club it was although I wasn't able to find the exact name; secondly Auer was a WWII resistance fighter against the Nazis, so there is some relevance here. However, I agree neither of these reasons mean that the name *must* stay in the article. Mujinga (talk) 10:39, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

    Ah this source says "die aus dem Lichtenberger Jugendclub »Judith Auer« kamen" - "who came from the Lichtenberg youth club »Judith Auer«" Mujinga (talk) 10:45, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

  • We say "In 1993, a 17-year-old man was sentenced to four and a half years imprisonment for manslaughter and two others also received suspended sentences." but we don't actually ever SAY this was for Meier's death... we probably need to...
    • done Mujinga (talk) 10:39, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
• Looks good otherwise. I didn't even have to copyedit anything! I saw you'll be offline possibly so it's not a rush. Ealdgyth (talk) 16:06, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

I've put the article on hold for seven days to allow folks to address the issues I've brought up. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, or here with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on. Ealdgyth (talk) 16:06, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

I'm back online again, thanks for the careful review. I've answered everything satisfactorily I hope, the replies on Judith Auer and the political squatters movement might need more comment. Mujinga (talk) 11:42, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Those changes look good - passing this now. Ealdgyth (talk) 12:31, 6 June 2022 (UTC)