Talk:Silver fulminate

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I simplified the Preparation section avoiding too detailed instructions os the explosive preparation. As already duscussed in other articles on explosives, this is not a terrorist handbook (there are plenty of those on the net already)...The preparation is commented, without being a cookbook on its synthesis. JEFCG 17:35, 11 September 2006 (UTC)Snappers mini torpedos great fun.They use Silver fumanite as expolsive gravel impregnated with same!Decide/Dated sn.Jul 5th 2009 2009 21stcent.Dr. Edson Andre' Johnson D.D.ULC>SWORDINHAND (talk) 18:15, 5 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Cyanate or fulminate hexamer? edit

Latest comment: 12 years ago5 comments2 people in discussion

I *think* the ball-and-stick shows a silver cyanate hexamer, rather than a silver fulminate one. Can someone who knows check this? Riventree (talk) 16:48, 12 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

I created the image, based on D. Britton, Acta Cryst. (1991) C47, 2646-2647. The title of the article is "A redetermination of the trigonal silver fulminate structure". If you compare the articles fulminate and cyanate, you'll see fulminate is [CNO]⁻ (oxygen is bonded to nitrogen) whereas cyanate is [OCN]⁻ (oxygen is bonded to carbon). Different connectivities. --Ben (talk) 20:05, 12 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

OK, looking at the diagram on the upper right, it shows Ag-O-N=C (triple N=C) Assuming Oxygen is red, nitrogen is blue, and carbon is black, then the grey is silver. The ball-and-stick shows the Ag and the O on opposite sides of the "sticks": that would make something that was AgCNO, rather than AgONC. Right?

Riventree (talk) 20:08, 13 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

All the crystal structures that are reported in the literature have Ag bonded to C, so I think the black-and-white structural formula needs updating. --Ben (talk) 20:21, 13 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Doh. There I was, assuming the simpler diagram was right. I searched a couple more sources, and they agree with you and the ball-and-stick. I uploaded a fixed version of the diagram.

Case closed. Riventree (talk) 13:06, 16 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

More information needed edit

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Alright, what happened to the history of this compound? Particularly it's use with percussion caps. Is this article being censored? Completely ridiculous. 172.115.25.33 (talk) 07:13, 7 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

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