Talk:Sikhism in the United States

Sikhs

There are Sikhs of every racial and ethnic backgrounds. For example there are a quite alot of Punjabi Sikhs as well as Causasian Sikhs and African Sikhs and Chinese Sikhs as well as Sikhs from other ethnic and racial backgrounds. For more information visit http://www.sikhnet.com

white sikhs

Arent there a few whites who have converted to Sikhism.

Yes, and they are usually referred to as "Gora" (meaning "white") Sikhs. Zengakuren (talk) 04:17, 14 March 2009 (UTC)Zengakuren

Propose splitting off [[[Sikhism in the United States military]]

Looking at the Military section here, I'm thinking one could leave the first paragraph, add a few lines summarising the others, and then move the current detailed content to a new article, Sikhism in the United States military. That way we could add more info about Sikhs who served prior to the uniform issue of the 1980s, maybe add some photos of Sikhs in US uniform, etc. Thoughts? MatthewVanitas (talk) 20:13, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Population Confusion

According the the main article on Sikhs, the estimate in the U.S. is 200,000. I'm sure the 2001 census estimate on this page is the most accurate, but something should be done to clear up the contradiction.71.222.195.97 (talk) 02:42, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Presently neither population figure given in the article is referenced from a reliable source, therefore anyone can place any number right now in the article and it can be challenged with a fact tag. I've seen estimates as high as a million, mainly counting themselves within the Indian American population, to 400,000. There was an effort leading up to the 2010 census for Sikhs to self identify to provide a more accurate accounting of their population in the United States, so until those numbers are released in some accessible fashion from a reliable source the best we have is speculation. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 00:51, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

This source claims 500,000.http://www.sikhspectrum.com/112006/denise.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zoravar (talk • contribs) 13:25, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Is that considered a reliable source? I suggest taking that to WP:RSN, and if the community validates it, added the figure with an appropriately formatted reference. That will go a great deal towards improving this article. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 20:46, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

I too am not sure.We should maybe quote a range or say other sources quote " " Zoravar (talk) 18:33, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Los Angeles Times is a reliable source, presently the source previously previded, has not been confirmed as a reliable source, and until that time, I would not support giving a range, with one of the numbers being sourced by the one previously given. Please see what other editors think at WP:RSN, and if they agree that the source is reliable then by all means make the edit.

Otherwise you can be bold, and add the information; the information would be tagged, and the process can begin as previoulsy described. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 12:02, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

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RfC

BAn RfC: Which descriptor, if any, can be added in front of Southern Poverty Law Center when referenced in other articles? has been posted at the Southern Poverty Law Center talk page. Your participation is welcomed. – MrX 17:21, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

I am sorry, but what does this RFC have to do with improving this article?--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 00:06, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Re:Sikh Personalities

Let's keep this article to people who actual are/were Sikh. Not people who may have been and are now Christians, Muslims, etc. The barticle otherwise is confusing for the reader and may possibly controvene our own Wikipedia rules WP:ALIVE as people may find it offensive. Thanks SH 09:25, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree, however it's unclear as to what constitutes a "Sikh". There are some folks from Sikh families or from "Sikh heritage" who may be casually religious in their Sikhi, but not publicly observant. Or they may practice a different or no faith, but it's unclear how to approach this matter, in terms of navigating the Sikh identity. AnyBurro9312 (talk) 00:43, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Nikki Haley

I see that she was removed, why? That was rather bold and had no consensus, reverted per WP:BRD. Let's reach consensus.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 21:46, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi,

I saw that Nikki Haley was on this page and removed her again...

As far as I know, she has never publicly identified as a Sikh or an American Sikh. She maintains that her parents are Sikh, but that's it.

Ethnically, she is still Punjabi and the daughter of two Sikh immigrants, but religiously, she is not a Sikh. AnyBurro9312 (talk) 01:55, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: Asian Religions in America

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 7 September 2022 and 9 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): SoloMunn (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Bootlegcleopatra, Wife.of.mothman.

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PlAN FOR CHANGES

Some of the articles about racially motivated attacks against Sikh people to include more examples in the Discrimination after the September 9/11 category. I also plan on editing that to just Discrimination because Sikh people faced injustice and discrimination even before 9/11. This will cover the Sikh experience in america from the early Sikh farmers that lived in California in the 1900s. I would also rearrange that paragraph and make bullet points for every example ordered chronologically so it’s easier for the reader to understand. It will also be easier to notice the increase in the number of these attacks after 9/11. I plan to add some history of Sikhism in the introduction and delete the second paragraph where it talks about the attacks after 9/11. I think as an introduction it would be better to give some history and describe Sikh practices and beliefs and how Sikh people have built Gurdwara’s all over America. The history title will become History and Evolution of Sikhism. After that I see in the article the previous editor touched upon Bhagat Singh Thind. I plan to dedicate a whole section called Bhagat Singh Thind v. United States under the History and Evolution of Sikhism section, where I will give more details about his story as probably one of the first Sikhs who were granted the American citizenship. The occupation section would be removed. The policing paragraph will be pasted in the history and Evolution of Sikhism part along with more recent examples. The history and evolution section will come before the demographics section. I also plan on touching upon the move towards orthodoxy of Sikhs as some of them don’t want to wear a comb and have long beard and the reason of this shift. The Elected Officials paragraph will be updated with more elected Sikh people and placed at the bottom of the page. I also plan on adding a section on Sikh initiatives to help their communities and the people around them and educate others about their religion like during Covid for example. For now, these are the main points I want to focus on to improve the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SoloMunn (talk • contribs) 02:24, 1 November 2022 (UTC) ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by SoloMunn (talk • contribs) 02:33, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

USA 2020 Census Results

Can someone please add USA 2020 census results, as it was announced that "Sikhs" would be counted as a separate ethnic group. Can someone please add this data to the wiki page, and to the appropriate sections, by state, if possible? I cannot seem to find this data.

"Sikhs to be counted as separate ethnic group in 2020 US Census; community hails recognition of distinct language, culture" https://www.firstpost.com/world/sikhs-to-be-counted-as-separate-ethnic-group-in-2020-us-census-community-hails-recognition-of-distinct-language-culture-7907961.html JazzyBsolarjatt (talk) 18:56, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

@JazzyBsolarjatt I tried looking for it and failed to locate the data. It may not be publicly available. ThethPunjabi (talk) 18:48, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Relevance of `Controversies` section?

I saw that there was a controversies section containing the murder of Mandeep Kaur.

While this murder is indeed reprehensible, I feel like it warrants it's own page instead of being shoehorned on this page.

Would anyone object if I was to remove it and establish this information in it's own page? AnyBurro9312 (talk) 01:58, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes, that would be good. 2601:647:6800:58A0:3423:7DE7:9126:399D (talk) 04:25, 17 February 2024 (UTC)