Talk:Signum manus

Latest comment: 7 months ago by 2600:1700:9B01:1A0:BC4B:F5B8:CC5E:F89B in topic Merovingian Crests

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terminology is confusing, it seems that chrismon refers to both the signum manus (even when not cross-shaped?) and the Christian symbols used at the beginning of texts, sometimes cross-shaped, the Chi Rho, or sometimes also letters like I.N.C. This is probably justified because historically these were the same type of sign, used to invoke God or Christ, either at the beginning of a document, or as witness or signatory in the sense of taking an oath in written form. 18th-century German Diplomatik appears to have studied this stuff in great detail, but I had a hard time finding more recent sources on this. The 2008 reference focusses on signatures and "signs of authority", of which the signum manus forms only a part. --dab (𒁳) 18:11, 3 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

Merovingian Crests edit

this is Satanism. these are Satanic symbols and crests. 2600:1700:9B01:1A0:BC4B:F5B8:CC5E:F89B (talk) 05:49, 24 September 2023 (UTC)Reply