Talk:Short-barreled rifle

change in 1960

Until about 1960, SBR was defined as centerfire rifle barrel less than 18", rimfire rifle barrel less than 16". After that time, 16" was minimum length for centerfire or rimfire rifle barrel. Since the rule has been in effect over 40 years, I don't know if the change amounts to more than a footnote. Naaman Brown (talk) 19:21, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Needs more "why"

This article is almost entirely about legal issues and restrictions. But I am left wondering about why these guns are restricted in the first place. Can this be elaborated on? It seems puzzling that a short rifle would require special federal restriction in a nation where [[handguns] are perfectly legal.Legitimus (talk) 14:51, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

The original intent by the Roosevelt administration was to ban handguns as well as short-barreled rifle, and short-barreled shotguns as well. And it was a ban for all practical purposes, imposing a punitively high tax --- $200 was a lot of money in 1934 --- and reams of paperwork amounting to a ban for the majority of people. Corporations were exempted from the requirement for local police permission.

Handguns were trimmed from the National Firearms Act in Congress in order to get it passed. Few people cared about SBRs or SBSs at that time, as they were not common and the cartridges and propellants of the day usually required longer barrels to be effective. What few SBRs and SBSs that existed were often longer-barreled guns that had been shortened by criminals in order to make them more concealable.

Advancements in propellants and cartridge design now make it possible to get the same ballistic performance from a very short barrel as from a long one, so many people now want to possess an SBR rather than a non-SBR with a needlessly long and heavy barrel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.152.56.198 (talk) 14:50, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

What is the source for the above? 50.163.198.170 (talk) 11:38, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

International Waters

SBRs may not be taken into international waters.[4][self-published source?]

Can this be removed until it is verified / cited better? Don't international waters fall outside the jurisdiction of any particular country? This would suggest to me that this statement is false. 199.223.21.100 (talk) 18:56, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Removing from US is legally "exporting" which requires a permit; likewise bringing back into the US is "importing" requiring permit. National Firearms Act of 1934 requires federal permit (approved BATFE Form 5320.20) simply to take an SBR (or SBS, machinegun, destructive device) from one state to another, let alone "export" from the US.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/does-registered-owner-destructive-device-machine-gun-short-barreled-shotgun-or-short

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