Talk:Shia view of Umar

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Mhhossein in topic POVFORK

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POVFORK edit

I think this article and Sunni view of Omar are WP:POVFORKs. We should have one unified article called "Perception of Omar" that gives WP:DUE weight to Shia, Sunni and non-Muslim views on Omar. Since this page doesn't get much traffic, I'll ping a few: @Apaugasma:, @Mhhossein:, @TheAafi:, @Eperoton:, @Onceinawhile:, @AhmadLX:.VR talk 11:20, 16 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Vice regent, Thanks for the ping. I agree with your proposal. Both these articles aren't much lengthy either. The proposed title seems interesting to me and it may help in adding few other view-points, for example, what non-Muslims have thought of Umar. ─ The Aafī (talk) 11:26, 16 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
I also agree in principle, though I would say that a much higher priority is to rewrite these articles to some minimum level of quality. Yesterday I completely rewrote our article on Abu Lu'lu'a, and when another editor added a link to Shia view of Umar (I will not speak of "Omar" on this website if I can avoid it  ) I felt I had to include it in my (more general) revert simply and only because this article is of such a low quality. It's actually a great topic to link to in the see also section of Abu Lu'lu'a (it would be as well for Eid-e-Shuja', another one I recently rewrote from-scratch), but I just think it's a bad idea to lead readers from a relatively enlightening piece of information into utter obscurity. I would be in favor of a merged, shorter, but also clearer and more reliable article. Now someone come and write it for us!     ☿ Apaugasma (talk ) 17:37, 16 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Thanks for the ping. Fully agree with the proposal. These tiny forks are against NPOV. I am in favor a merger, provided that it is accompanied by a rewrite based on the reliable sources– preferably scholarly ones. --Mhhossein talk 06:38, 17 September 2021 (UTC)Reply