Talk:Shetland sheep/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Winner 42 (talk · contribs) 14:20, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Going to place this under review. Ideally, I should be done in less than 24 hours. Winner 42 Talk to me! 14:20, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Overall Comments

It was a very interesting read and the coverage seems quite good. The main issues here are some minor grammar errors and the original research. The inconsistent citation style is also a problem. I'm going to put this on hold until the problems are addressed. Winner 42 Talk to me! 15:52, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

@Winner 42: Is this better now? Thanks! TheMagikCow (talk) 18:29, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

@TheMagikCow: Nicely done! You seem to have addressed most of my concerns, but some of them remain unaddressed. I would prefer you address why you don't want to make certain changes that I have recommended before I pass this. I willing to be reasonable and discuss them with you. Winner 42 Talk to me! 20:46, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

@Winner 42: Sorry about that. I have responded to the ones that I have not changed, below in the sectional analysis. I think that that is everything but please don't hesitate to tell me if I am wrong! TheMagikCow (talk) 08:30, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

@TheMagikCow: Congrats! I'm going to pass the review now, thanks for your hard work improving Wikipedia! Winner 42 Talk to me! 14:41, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for reviewing! TheMagikCow (talk) 14:57, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Sectional Analysis

Lead and infobox

 Done

• What does "Shetland ewe grazing heathland" mean? Please clarify.
• Perhaps include the Scottish Gaelic word for the sheep, not required, but it would add to the article.
• "but now also kept in many other parts of the world" is an incomplete phrase. Perhaps adding an "is" after "but".
• I made a small grammar correction to sentence 3, thoughts?
• "classed" -> "classified"?
• "The Shetland breed has survived for centuries in difficult conditions and on a poor diet, and thrive in better conditions." -> flows poorly and an incomplete phrase, perhaps "but they thrive in better conditions"
• "so are" -> "so they are"
• The information in the 2nd paragraph needs a source somewhere in the article, I can't seem to find it

Source 10. TheMagikCow (talk) 16:53, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

• Ref 2 is lacking information

History

 Done

• "Up to the Iron Age, the sheep of the British Isles and other parts of northern and western Europe were small, short-tailed, horned only in the male and variable in colour. Short-tailed sheep were gradually displaced by long-tailed types, leaving short-tailed sheep restricted to the less accessible areas" Needs a source
• Can you clarify in the article how the first few sentences are relevant to Shetland sheep?

The Dunface's descendants are the Shetlands. TheMagikCow (talk) 16:41, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

• "the body responsible for the sheep" -> " the body responsible for the sheep's protection"?
• Which mainland are you referring to?
• "Such aggressive Shetland rams, however, are unusual." Needs a source
• US -> United States
• Ref 6 should link to the pdf that discusses the sheep. There is some additional information there that you might also want to use to increase your coverage.
• Ref 7 is broken and should use the cite web template
• destroyed -> killed
• Ref 3 and 4 should use Cite book
• I would like to see some coverage of modern day shetland sheep farming to provide broad coverage of its history

Breed characteristics

• Ref 9 is dead
• The term ewes is jargon and should be defined or replaced, calling them female sheep might be better

I don't think the ewes counts as jargon. Most young children learn that ewes and rams are sheep; as cows and bulls are cattle. TheMagikCow (talk) 08:26, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

• "The breed is noted for its ... high quality of its meat, though its smaller size limits its use in commercial meat markets" by whom? Needs a source.
• "most of which have particular traditional names." Such as what names? Also needs a source.
• (see below) isn't really nessecary when it is the next section below.
• What is PDO?
• Ref 10 should use Cite News
• Ref 11 should use Cite Web
• "Eleven main colours are recognised" by whom?
• Lambing is jargon giving birth or some other phrase would be preferred
• Ref 13 is a blog which aren't typically considered reliable sources.

External Links

• Shetland Flock Book Trust is dead.

Review

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:

   B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. Has an appropriate reference section:

   B. Citations to reliable sources, where necessary:

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused (see summary style):

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail: