Talk:Shelter (Finneas song)

Good article nominations

Instead of just creating articles and requesting good article status right away, you should have others look at/read/edit the articles, first. Flesh them out first, see if they actually meet notability requirements and find more substantial sourcing. Don't be in such a rush. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 01:15, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Shelter (Finneas song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Lazman321 (talk · contribs) 13:41, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Hello, it is me again. I will be reviewing this song for you. Lazman321 (talk) 13:41, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

1. - Well Written

a. - Prose

• In the sentence, Finneas cries as the dancers turn shove and toss him roughly around the riverbed. Add a "to" between the "turn" and "shove".
  • Add a space in the lead between "that" and "Avicii".
  • In the Background and composition section, in the phrase ...but has an undercurrent of trouble. "They call us lucky... remove the period and replace it with a "saying".

b. - Manual of Style

• There should be information in the lead about the song being originally written for Avicii to sing.
  • Move the phrase Finneas had heard that Avicii was looking for songs to produce. He wrote the song and sent it to Avicii's team. to before the phrase It was released by OYOY as the third single from the EP on August 22, 2019.
  • In between those two phrases, type It is unknown if Avicii ever listened to the song.
  • Add a "later" between "It was" and "released by".
• In the lead, remove the phrase, A pop song, as it is not needed.

2. - Verifiable

a. - List of references

• No action needed.

b. - Reliable sources

• No action needed.

c. - No original research

• No action needed.

d. - No copyright violations

• No action needed.

3. - Broad

a. - Main Aspects

• Are you sure that this is a single? It isn't listed as a single on iTunes or AllMusic. The citation for its release links to the music video on iTunes which can't be downloaded. If it was a single, it most likely would've charted in the USA.

user:Lazman321, it was a single. Finneas promoted Shelter and was featured in many reliable sources. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 06:30, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

b. - Focused

• No action needed.

4. - Neutral

• No action needed.

5. - Stable

• No action needed.

6. - Illustrated

a. - Copyright tags

• No action needed.

b. - Relevant media

• The cover art of the EP put in the writing and composition section would be nice. Make sure you tag it.

user:Lazman321, I have done this in the past with other articles. It was reverted. I would do it, but other editors might get rid of it. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 06:31, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

7. - Overall

• Really nice article. It is a short article, but all information that is available is in this article. I'll put this  On hold for 7 days this time because the improvements are easy. Lazman321 (talk) 17:02, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Lazman321, thanks again for a review! Lmk if anything else needs to be done. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 06:32, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

• The Ultimate Boss Added some new suggestions. Do these suggestions and I might promote the article to GA. Lazman321 (talk) 17:43, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
  • The Ultimate Boss, Where are you? You haven't responded at all. Lazman321 (talk) 00:37, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Hey Lazman321, sorry it took so long to respond. I have been going through a lot and have just not lost my motivation to continue good articles. I will finish my review for your article today. You can go ahead and fail the review. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 11:16, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Shelter (Finneas song)/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 08:43, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Nice to see you so active again! I will wipe this review out very soon...

Infobox and lead

• Finneas → Finneas O'Connell under songwriters
• "It was released by" → "The song was released by"
• Target single to Single (music)
• "He wrote the song" → "Afterwards, he wrote the song"
• Mention in this same para info about the song's lyrics
• "A music video for the track was" → "A music video for "Shelter" was" with the wikilink
• "shove him and toss him roughly." → "shove and toss him roughly."
• "throughout October 2019," → "throughout October 2019 to support Blood Harmony,"
• "his tour including performances of the track." → "the tour including performances of the song."

Background and composition

• "written back in 2016." → "written back in 2016 by Finneas."
• "Finneas had heard that" → "He had heard that"
• "Avicii, was looking for" → "Avicii was looking for"
• "Finneas wrote the track" → "Following on from this, Finneas wrote the track"
• Only [2] needs to be at the end of the "confess" sentence since the other sources are irrelevant
• "as the third single on" → "as the third single from" with the target
• Remove wikilink on Blood Harmony
• "and streaming through his record label" → "and streaming, through his record label" with the wikilink
• The pop track sentence should start the second para
• "described the track as" → "described "Shelter" as"
• ""Shelter" features" → "The track features"
• Target Latin to Latin music
• "gospel choir effect[s] during the chorus," → "gospel choir effect[s] that appear during the chorus," with the targets
• "reverb’d handclaps, bluesy vocal embellishment" → "reverb'd handclaps, bluesy vocal embellishment," with the target and wikilink
• Target bridge to Bridge (music)
• "And further comments the song is" → "He further commented that the track is"
• Wikilink acoustic guitar
• "melody" that is very" → "melody", which is very"
• Add release year of "Shape of You" in brackets
• "is set at a dance tempo." → "is set in a dance tempo." with the wikilink
• Merge the final para with this one in the new order
• "is about a love for a girl that brings" → "is about a lover that brings"
• ""They call us" → "He represents the trouble with the lyrics, "They call us"
• "for the track only gets more urgent as it continues." → "of the track becomes more urgent as it continues:"

Critical reception

• "received mainly positive reviews" → "was met with mainly positive reviews"
• "noted that Shelter was" → "noted that "Shelter" was"
• "he produces for his sister [Billie] [Eilish]"." → "[Finneas] produces for his sister [Billie Eilish]"." and add the wikilink to her in the way that it is done
• "while he mentions that it's" → "while mentioning that its"
• "stated that with "Shelter" it" → "stated that the song"
• "and calls the production" → "and he called the production"
• Wikilink uptempo per MOS:LINK2SECT
• "mentions the song" → "mentioned the song"

Promotion

• Wikilink music video
• "was directed by Sam Bennett and was uploaded to" → "was uploaded to" to avoid repetition
• Remove the word "official"
• "while shot in" → "while it was shot in"
• "It begins with" → "The visual begins with"
• "through the Los Angeles river" → "along the Los Angeles river"
• Remove the "wearing" part since that is totally unsourced
• The lyrics that Finneas is quoted as crying are not the ones that 14 instates; fix this
• "turn to shove and toss him roughly around the riverbed." → "try to tug and toss him roughly around the empty riverbed, as well as mobbing him."
• "Grease and praised the choreography," → "Grease, while praising the choreography,"
• "he performed from the EP" → "from the EP that he performed live"
• The tour info is not backed up by the ref
• "In October 2019, Finneas perfromed" → "In October 2019, Finneas performed"
• "the Austin City Limits Music Festival and was backed up" → "the Austin City Limits Music Festival, being backed up

Release history

• See MOS:TABLECAPTION
• Format → Format(s)
• Digital download and streaming should be separated in the table

References

• Copyvio score looks great at 11.5%
• Make sure all of these are archived by using the tool
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 3
• Ref 6 is not the correct ref, since you should be citing one that verifies the release of the song as a single, not its music video's release and cite various retailers with the countries in brackets

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold after reviewing this short article, though it is quite close to the criteria.

Kyle Peake, thank you so much for the review! Lmk if anything else needs to be done. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 07:32, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

The Ultimate Boss This looks a lot better, but there is still no source for the song being performed on tour. --K. Peake 07:50, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Kyle Peake, oops sorry. Fixed. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 08:03, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

The Ultimate Boss ✓ Pass now, good job! --K. Peake 08:08, 23 October 2020 (UTC)