Talk:Shaun Brisley

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Amkgp in topic Did you know nomination

GA Review edit

This review is transcluded from Talk:Shaun Brisley/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 12:54, 27 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Shall review for the GAN October 2020 Backlog Drive. MWright96 (talk) 12:54, 27 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose):   b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):  
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (reference section):   b (citations to reliable sources):   c (OR):  
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):   b (focused):  
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:  
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:  
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales):   b (appropriate use with suitable captions):  
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:  

Lead edit

Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Macclesfield Town edit

  • "and attended local schools Ivy Bank Primary school" - school can begin with a capital letter
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • You can add that Macclesfield manager Keith Alexander was impressed by Brisley that he signed him to a professional contract when the player was 18 as stated in Reference 4
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • "He made his professional debut for the "Silkmen" on 1 March 2008," - no team nicknames please
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • "He ended the 2007–08 season with ten League Two appearances to his name. He went on to establish himself in the Macclesfield's defence, featuring 43 times across the 2008–09 campaign, scoring goals in both the League Cup and FA Cup. He scored two goals in 36 appearances in the 2009–10 season" - all this information needs to be verified by a reliable source
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Peterborough United edit

  • "Brisley joined Championship side Peterborough United on an emergency loan with a view to a permanent deal in the summer." - avoid using seasons per MOS:SEASON
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • "Manager Darren Ferguson said that he first tried to sign the defender three seasons ago" - first attempted to sign the defender three seasons earlier
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • "He played 31 games in the 2012–13 campaign as United were relegated into League One." - needs to be verified by a reliable source
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • "he scored a "powerful headed goal" in the Football League Trophy final" - according to whom?
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • ""Irons" manager Russ Wilcox said" - no team nicknames please
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • "The loan was extended until 3 January." - on what date was the loan extended to 3 January?
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • "He played a total of seven games during his time at Glanford Park, though featured only three times after Mark Robins succeeded Wilcox as manager. He also played a total of 16 times for Peterborough during the 2014–15 season." - all this text needs to be verified by a reliable source
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • "he joined League Two side Northampton Town on a one-month loan deal." - Northampton Town of League Two for a one-month loan agreement.
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • ""Cobblers" manager Chris Wilder said that the news was "disappointing because he's been superb for us"." - no team nicknames please
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • "He featured 16 times for the "O's"," - same issue as above
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • The above sentence will also need to be verified by a reliable source
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Carisle United edit

  • "Brisley signed a two-year deal" - contract
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • "He said that manager Keith Curle's 'sales pitch' convinced him to join the "Cumbrians"" - again no team nicknames
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • "he could not guarantee him game-time" - time playing
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Notts County edit

  • "He made 46 appearances in the 2017–18 campaign," - needs to be verified by a reliable source
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • "He left Meadow Lane after being released following the club's relegation out of the English Football League at the end of the 2018–19 season." - please state the relegation demoted Notts County to the National League
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Port Vale edit

  • Wikilink League Two Player of the Month to the relevant article
That particular award doesn't have a Wiki article.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Career statstics edit

  • The three notes for the table will need to be referenced
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

References edit

  • Be consistent in how BBC Sport is placed in the work or publisher fields of the references
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • www.peterboroughtoday.com should be changed to Peterborough Telegraph
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • The hyphens in the titles of the references should be replaced by en dashes (–) per MOS:DASH
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • The url link for Reference 3 "Macc's hometown hero" needs to be repaired and it should be archived
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Reference 11's last name should be Lea not "LEa"
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • The bold text in reference 11's title "Posh Sign Shaun Brisley from Macclesfield | Vital Peterborough" is not needed
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Reference 12 "Posh power past sorry Seasiders" is missing the publication date
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Reference 15 "Chesterfield 1-3 Peterborough" is missing the author
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Reference 23 "POSH LATEST: Brisley back at Peterborough United because of serious injury" is dead and needs archiving
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • For the above title text, don't use all capital letters per MOS:ALLCAPS
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Reference 27 "O's bring in Brisley" is dead and needs archiving and is missing the date it was published
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Reference 30 title "CONTRACTS: Defender joins on two-year deal": avoid using all capital letters
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Part of the title of Reference 32 "TRANSFER: Central defender leaves by mutual consent" should not be in all capital letters and the author is missing
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • The author of Reference 33 should be formatted as Curtis, Leigh with the appropriate fields and Nottingham Post should be the work not the publisher
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Reference 49 "Shaun Brisley" is missing the publisher
Done.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Will put the review on hold to allow the nominator to address or query the points raised above. MWright96 (talk) 14:30, 27 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Okay great thank you for that. I have addressed all the points raised.--EchetusXe 17:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
@EchetusXe: Now promoting to GA class. MWright96 (talk) 21:37, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Did you know nomination edit

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Amkgp (talk) 05:32, 5 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Improved to Good Article status by EchetusXe (talk). Self-nominated at 15:42, 2 November 2020 (UTC).Reply

  • First, it's not that interesting since many vegan athletes will make similar claims. Second, it's better if the hook doesn't seem to be promoting something (in this case veganism). (t · c) buidhe 10:28, 3 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Seeing a comment was made on 3 November but not a full review, I will conduct a full review (though I agree with Buidhe's comments about the hook)
  •  Y Article is long enough (7259 characters), is a GA, nominated in time (became GA on 1 November, nominated on 2 November), and article is within policy
  •  N As highlighted above, a hook that a vegan thinks veganism has helped them is uninteresting, as it's very common for vegans to post support for veganism. Please can you provide a more interesting hook?
  •  Y QPQ done
  •   EchetusXe Overall, the article is good (no pun intended!), but the hook is not. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:27, 21 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
I have to say that there aren't many vegan footballers. How about we just change the hook to state that he became vegan and not mention the fitness quote?EchetusXe 13:31, 21 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
There are quite a few famous vegan footballers ([1], [2], [3]), and I just don't see how someone being vegan is that interesting of a hook. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:07, 24 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
Okay I'll have to reach a bit for something interesting with this otherwise rather ordinary footballer. But reading again through the article this angle stood out for me:
  •   Apologies for the delay, this slipped my radar. This hook looks fine to me. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:45, 1 December 2020 (UTC)Reply