Talk:Shanghai Metro/Archive 1

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Anybody who can confirm the recent anonymous edit that Line 5 is also distance based instead of fixed fare? I haven't seen that line yet, so I have not idea which is true. CyeZ 02:24, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

• I believe that Shanghai Line 5 is also distance based. Heights 17:04, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
• True, however it's at a discounted rate. Xavierkuai 12:47, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

There is no line 22, and Jinshan Railway is not part of Shanghai Metro

There is a very significant (and consistant) mistake in this article, related Shanghai Metro sub-articles and diagrams. The recently opened Jinshan Railway is no longer considered to be a part of Shanghai Metro, as is apparent from the complete lack of any reference to "Line 22" or "Shanghai Metro" in the signage along the line as well as available online material (see Shanghai Metro official website)! The line has been funded and is operated by a separate company apparently tied to the Ministry of Railway. It is a conventional commuter railway line which operates through Shanghai South Railway station and other railway stations, not Metro stations, using convential (high speed) trains. Trains operate on a normal railway timetable with intervals as long as 90 minutes, which definitely does not qualify for mass rapid transport. Sources: official website, news reports (see Shanghai Daily) and I personally took this line! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.228.242.60 (talk) 06:11, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of timetables and price tables

I propose to delete all timetables and (maybe) price tables from Shanghai Metro pages. The timetables especially are superfluous information which can be obtained easily and much more authoritatively from the Shanghai Metro authorities. They are cluttering the pages. -- Sumple (Talk) 05:52, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Separate Shanghai Metro station articles

I have started the quite massive undertaking of rebranding the existing articles on Shanghai Metro stations as specific Shanghai Metro articles, or "outsourcing" the information concerning the metro station from articles concerning places of the same name.

Apart from bringing the series in line with the major other subway series on Wikipedia (compare London Underground, New York City Subway and MTR, as well as the Chinese version of the Shanghai Metro series), my rationale for doing this is

• to solve the factual inaccuracy (something like a map territory problem) resulting from equaling actual places to metro stations. For instance, recently we had the case of Dongfang Lu station being renamed Shiji Avenue station. By redirecting an article 'Dongfang Lu' to 'Shijie Avenue', is appears as if the street has been renamed, which is not the case, as instead the station has taken the name of another street! Each article describing Shanghai metro stations should therefore also outwardly reflect the identity of a metro station, rather than the place it is named after.
• to avoid foreseeable cluttering that will become a problem as soon as more information is added to the articles about both the metro stations and the places they are named after.
• specifically to avoid the problem with Shanghai Metro stations being named after street sections. While articles on Shanghai streets always refer to the street on the whole (compare Nanjing Road), stations are often named after street sections (compare West Nanjing Road (Shanghai Metro)). Describing several geographically distant stations of (potentially different) lines in the same street article might prove confusing, and again result in the factual inaccuracy described above.

I have considered both the London model (e.g. Baker Street tube station), the New York model (e.g. Seventh Avenue (IND Queens Boulevard Line)) and the Hong Kong Model (e.g. Kwai Fong (MTR)) and taken a scheme close to the Hong Kong model to establish a clear association of the subject described in the article with the Shanghai Metro (e.g. East Nanjing Road (Shanghai Metro). The naming scheme is also based upon the official translations given in announcenments and on signs (in English, as this is the English wikipedia). Alternative writings may direct to the main articles.

The idea is that eventually, the metro station articles (apart from history etc.) will give information similiar to the information signs in the Shanghai subway stations, while the articles on places will specifically include information concerning them. To avoid redundancy, I'd suggest not to include any details (like landmarks) to locations near the metro stations, but leave this information on the respective pages.

The process of rebranding has already been finished for Line 2. To avoid unnecessary stubs, articles with no other information than about the metro station have been moved (e.g. Jiangsu Road (Shanghai Metro), while pages with more information have been splitted (e.g. People's Square (Shanghai). As there are still a few lines to cover, any helping hand for the remaining stations is warmly welcomed. -- Bluebird47 23:20, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I like what you are doing there. It's a long overdue move and I think it's great that you are taking on such a huge and perhaps repetitive task.

I also agree with your proposed naming scheme. I will try to help where I can. --Sumple (Talk) 02:32, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm glad to read that you support these changes :) I have now completed Line 1, so that the two main lines of Shanghai Metro now have consistent articles. -- Bluebird47 14:39, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

While I was at it, I incorporated the northern extension of Line 3 and the western extension of Line 2 which both opened in Dec 2006. There's one issue I couldnt resolve yet, maybe you can find out more in the original Chinese sources: is Songbin Road or Wusong Town the final name of one station of Line 3? -- Bluebird47 18:41, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

According to the Chinese wiki, Songbin Road is the name of one of the new stations. --Sumple (Talk) 00:18, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, so it seems the official news article is right indeed (and the maps are wrong). I just completed Line 3 and Line 4 is half-way done. One further issue I had that I'd like to get confirmed concerns Shanghai Stadium and Shanghai Indoor Stadium. Old maps show the former to be part of Line 1 (and I remember that quite clearly), while now it is part of Line 3 exclusively, and Shanghai Indoor Stadium is a transfer station for both lines. Does this mean that they closed down Shanghai Stadium metro station (as Line 3 is above ground) in favor of a new Shanghai Indoor Stadium station (both subway and above ground)? -- Bluebird47 00:35, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I think you mean line 4 - which is the new subway line, not line 3. Line 3 passes by near the stadiums but doesn't have a stop there.

I think it's only the translation that's changed: Shanghai Indoor Stadium was the original Line 1 station and it's still a Line 1 station. The Chinese name was and still is "上海体育馆" ("Shanghai Sports Hall"). My guess is that this station was translated as "Shanghai Stadium" originally, becuase the new outdoor stadium had not been built at the time. This is the station that's on both line 1 and line 4. My guess is that after the new outdoor stadium was built, they changed the translation of the station name to "Shanghai Indoor Stadium" to avoid confusion.

"Shanghai [outdoor] Stadium" is a station on line 4 only. --Sumple (Talk) 08:14, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I see there all the confusion mentioned in the original article is coming from. After continued search, I got some interesting clues: first, you are right, in Chinese the line 1 metro station was always called 上海体育馆 ("Shanghai Wantiguan") even on old maps. However Shanghai [Outdoor] Stadium did exist at the time they used "Shanghai Stadium" as the translation for the Line 1 metro station (I have photos from 2004 showing the same building as in the respective WP article). Then I checked Google Maps and saw the two stadiums are not just "close" but literally next to each other. In light of that, which metro station takes which name sure seems like a pure formality. So the English name of the station referred to the outdoor stadium (or, in fact, both of them) and the Chinese one specifically to the indoor stadium. Then, they build line 4 and a new (above ground) station a bit away took the Chinese name for outdoor stadium "海体育场", in English, "Shanghai Stadium". So the original line 1 station (now with line 4 transfer) had to switch to the more precise translation "Shanghai Indoor Stadium". Does this explanation make sense to you? -- Bluebird47 15:00, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

yeah, that's what I think as well. The outdoor stadium was built after line 1: line 1 in 1994 or thereabouts?? and the outdoor stadium was built in 1997. --Sumple (Talk) 23:38, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

POV - "The Shanghai Subway has to be one of best systems in the world."

This sentance and possibly others in this article are POV. Triona 17:04, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

I've made an attempt to correct the POV and generally clean up the article. Can someone verify the information in the article? --Robinspw 18:00, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

This is not the Shanghai Metro Information Site

Please stop adding superfluous information like timetables. CAn you imagine if London Underground had timetables for every single line? I am also concerned about the verifiability or lack thereof of the "planned" information. Planned disneyland?? Disney has emphatically said that they have no plans to build a theme park in Shanghai in the forseeable future as far as I remember. --Sumple (Talk) 11:15, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. Because WP:NOT a crystal ball, any future/planned happenings should be appropriately referenced. enochlau (talk) 12:11, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Further to that, see Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Shanghai_Metro/Timetables, and in particular, Shanghai Metro Line 1. There are timetables everywhere! Before I go and obliterate them, I would like to hear from the editors who put them up why they think they should stay. enochlau (talk) 12:16, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Map

The map is ridiculous. The text for each of the stations is not consistent + the line 3 extension and the line 2 extension has already been opened. I think a route map of such a large subway system should be important and currently it does not seem so. Heights 00:25, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

• Ignore please, I've made a new map. Thanks. Heights^{(Want to talk?)} 22:30, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

This just came up on a search today - http://henleycentreheadlightvision.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/shanghai_subway.gif Don't know how to put it in, but thought someone here might. Don't know how accurate, but looks impressive enough to be put on this page as to the possible future of the Shanghai subway.116.231.75.16 (talk) 01:56, 3 September 2008 (UTC)Anon.

There is an error on the map for Line 2 -- Nanjing Rd to the East of People's Square is marked as (W) -- it should be E (Dong) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.248.24.194 (talk) 08:24, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

History?

Shouldn't there be some sort of brief history that describes the conception of the Shanghai Metro which includes major developments? I know that this info is present on the individual Line pages, but it would be really useful if the highest-level article had some background to the system. -Herenthere (Talk) 05:24, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Renaming of articles

Should the format of the articles on the lines be renamed to "Line _, Shanghai Metro" ? I've checked the other operating rail lines in China and all their lines adopted this format. Newfraferz87 (talk) 02:11, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

This is a good question. I would say that in general, articles on metro/subway lines should be named in a similar fashion. Here are examples of other major metros:

• Moscow Metro - Sokolnicheskaya Line
• Hong Kong MTR - Kwun Tong Line
• Rome Metro - Line A (Rome Metro)
• Seoul Metropolitan Subway - Seoul Subway Line 5
• Paris Metro - Paris Métro Line 1
• Mass Rapid Transit (Singapore) - North South MRT Line
• Delhi Metro - Red Line (Delhi Metro)
• Guangzhou Metro - Line 1, Guangzhou Metro
• Berlin U-Bahn - U1 (Berlin U-Bahn)
• Budapest Metro - Line 1 (Budapest Metro)
• Madrid Metro - Line 1 (Madrid Metro)
• Barcelona Metro - Barcelona Metro line 1
• Tokyo Metro - Tokyo Metro Ginza Line

Man, there's not much of a pattern there at all. It almost seems like the "Line X, City system" format is unique to china, but i have not looked at all articles. —fudoreaper (talk) 22:41, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Articles changed. Newfraferz87 (talk) 05:50, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Map, again

The current map needs to be more readable. This is a good map. We should use it as a template. Colipon+(Talk) 19:04, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Station count

Why are interchanges being counted multiple times? -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 21:36, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

It is used in official reports; the Beijing Subway uses a similar way of counting. NoNews! 22:15, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Longest Metro System in the World?

In the wake of the Shanghai Metro's recent expansion (thru April 2010), some have described the Shanghai Metro as the "longest in the world." An article in the Shanghai Daily, dated April 9, 2010, says that with the opening of the Line 10 the following day, the Metro will reach 420km in length and become the longest in the world.[1]. The 420km figure does not include the Maglev line but it is not clear whether the count includes revenue tracks only or also includes non-revenue tracks such as service track in depots. Also not clear is whether this number double- or single-counts the stretch of tracks that Lines 3 and 4 share. The Shanghai Metro's own website describes the London Underground as having a track length of 439km.[2] The London Underground's official stat page says the network's length is 402km.[3]. Perhaps it is time to start a list of the world's longest metro networks. How track/line length is counted will be crucial to the accuracy and informativeness to such a list. ContinentalAve (talk) 19:00, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

The Shanghai metro says the London Underground is longer than London Underground as they are both using different measurement techniques. List of Metro Systems covers the stuff you want to cover, but getting the content sourced at all is generally tricky, so getting a single measure to use for fair comparisons is tricky. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 22:23, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

I just wonder if Shanghai adopt London measurement technique, but include the Maglev Line, which one will be the longest ? Joe2008 (talk) 06:58, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

You may refer to Shanghai Metro official Website. http://www.shmetro.com/node49/201004/con103569.htm . Seems if London Underground adopt Shanghai metro's measurement technique, London Underground would have 439km route length, so London still the longest by April 2010. Joe2008 (talk) 06:58, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Introduction too short? - July 2010

In early July 2010, a comment was made that the introduction is inadequate for this article, but no efforts were made to add anything to what appears to be a fairly concise and informative intro. What's missing? The intro as is covers the basic attributes of the Shanghai Metro, including what it is (an urban mass transit system), what it consists of (light rail and subway), when it opened and a comment about how quickly it's grown (history), the current state of the metro (number of lines and stations and track length, ridership) and a reference about future expansion. Someone actually took out the recap of recent areas of expansion. So what's left to say in the introduction? Do we really want to have an intro that also summarizes the types of rolling stock and signaling system that metro uses? Or the intricacies of its ticketing system and "virtual transfers." Unless that kind of info or something is clearly warranted in the intro, the article should not carry an "inadequate intro" band. Please enlighten.

ContinentalAve (talk) 23:36, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

I moved some content down into its own section leaving only one paragraph which is when I added the tag. But there are now two paragraphs in the lead. Its probably not up to GA standards but there's no reason for a tag in the meantime really, so I've removed it. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 07:01, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! Btw, feel free to add to the intro. I'd just add that as the Recent Expansion section gets further updated, the older content in that section should be moved to the history section. ContinentalAve (talk) 16:21, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Line 22

This new article, http://sh.sina.com.cn/news/s/2010-10-28/0831160417.html, says Line 22 is 56 km and will open Oct. 1, 2011. Can someone more proficient than me in Wikipedia mark up move it to the By the End of 2012 section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.69.241.63 (talk) 20:53, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Yep. Done. ;) NoNews! 00:21, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

I am confused. Is Line 22 a part of the Shanghai Metro system or not? Some sources say yes, some say no, but the official website apparently does not include Line 22 on its map. Its characteristics are similar to Beijing's S2 Suburban Railway, which is operated by the Beijing Railway Bureau and not the Mass Transit Commission - is this line operated by the railway bureau as well? Colipon+(Talk) 23:13, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

According to Chinese Wikipedia, it is operated by Shanghai Jinshan Railway Development Co. Ltd. I would assume that it is therefore not part of the Shanghai Metro/not operated by the Shanghai Metro. It also has full schedules of trains (instead of something like one train every 4 minutes, there are actual train timetables), and there are express trains: two characteristics unique to it that make it more like a railway line and different from a Shanghai Metro line. Heights^{(Want to talk?)} 23:19, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Also, going by the numbering system (C3003), the trains on this line are a part of the CRH system, and therefore separate from Shanghai Metro. In the next few days I think it will be best to go through and remove any reference to this line and Shanghai Metro. It looks like they're planning a new "Line 22" anyways.  –Nav  ^{talk to me or sign my guestbook} 00:53, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Anyway, currently the map has Line 22 on it, I suggest we take it off ASAP, as it would confuse some readers. Colipon+(Talk) 16:00, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

animated evolution of the Shanghai metro

can someone make an animated map showing the evolution of the Shanghai Metro like the ones in the Beijing Metro and Tokyo Metro articles. Terramorphous (talk • contribs) 23:33, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

The stations should be named as XXX station, not XXX (Shanghai Metro)

As title. Articles such as Hongqiao Road (Shanghai Metro) should be moved to Hongqiao Road Station. --DS - fax 09:21, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't think so. The "Shanghai Metro" suffix makes it very clear that the station is from the Shanghai Metro, especially when faced with similarly named stations (such as Xiaonanmen Station) or stations with station-based names (such as Shanghai Railway Station Station). Besides, the suffix has been there for a long time and there are too many of them to change and fix the links (from both within the articles and other articles). Hence, it is not feasible. NoNews! 09:20, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Per Wikipedia:Article titles:

Recognizability – an ideal title will confirm, to readers who are familiar with (though not necessarily expert in) the topic, that the article is indeed about that topic. One important aspect of this is the use of names most frequently used by English-language reliable sources to refer to the subject.

In this case, "Hongqiao Road (Shanghai Metro)" indicates that the subject of the article is a road named Hongqiao in Shanghai Metro (that's impossible, but consider it possible first); "Hongqiao Road Station", however, is a proper name showing the subject as a station.

The (Shanghai Metro) is a Disambiguation suffix, which is used only when needed; the example Xiaonanmen station of Taipei Metro should be moved to Xiaonanmen station (Taipei Metro), and Xiaonanmen (Shanghai Metro) should be moved to Xiaonanmen station (Shanghai Metro).

The work may be done by AWB. By the way, Shanghai Metro is not using Template:s-line yet, it will be much easier to change station names with the template.--DS - fax 12:47, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

All station articles renamed

User:Hat600 and I have renamed all of the articles from the (Shanghai Metro) format to the Station format. There were several with disambiguities that were not renamed. Heights^{(Want to talk?)} 22:26, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Lines table with interchange column

The following lines table format with the interchange column was used in this article for several years until May 2011, when the new table format removed the interchange column. The interchange column provides a concise means of showing network intersections. No reason was given for the removal of this column. This column should be restored to the current lines table, unless there are objections. ContinentalAve (talk) 19:24, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Line	Terminals		Opened	Newest Extension	Length (km)	Stations	Interchange
1	Fujin Road	Xinzhuang	1995	2007	36.4	28	2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10
2	East Xujing	Pudong International Airport	1999	2010	63.8	30	1, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, Maglev
3	North Jiangyang Road	Shanghai South Railway Station	2000	2006	40.3	29	1, 2, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11
4	Loop line beginning at Yishan Road		2005	2007	33.7	26	1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11
5	Xinzhuang	Minhang Development Zone	2003	–	17.2	11	1
6	Gangcheng Road	Oriental Sports Center	2007	–	32.3	28	2, 4, 7, 8, 9
7	Meilan Lake	Huamu Road	2009	2010	44.2	30	1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, Maglev
8	Shiguang Road	Aerospace Museum	2007	2009	37.4	28	1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 10
9	Songjiang Xincheng	Middle Yanggao Road	2007	2010	45.2	23	1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8
10	New Jiangwan Town	Hongqiao Railway Station/Hangzhong Road	2010	2010	35.4	31	1, 2, 3, 4, 8
11	North Jiading/Anting	Jiangsu Road	2009	2011	45.8	21	2, 3, 4
Maglev	Longyang Road	Pudong International Airport	2002	–	33.0	2	2, 7
Total:					434.6	273

Just a comment: I am not really adamant on having this Interchange section, for it can always be put into the separate articles on the Lines. The only problem is with the space it takes up in the article - if the network expands, more lines connect with each other, and the listing of interchanging lines will clutter. NoNews! 14:09, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

I agree. It's not like this helps the user navigate or something, because so many lines connect to so many other lines. You may as well take a look at a map. Colipon+(Talk) 15:10, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Let me suggest how the interchange column could be useful. Let's say you're in Pudong near Line 6 and had to go to a location in Jiading accessible by Line 11. You don't know if Line 6 connects to Line 11 directly. Under the current set up, the reader would have to click on the Line 11 article to figure out which other lines connect to Line 11 (2, 3, 4) and then click on each of those lines' articles and scroll through the each of the stations tables therein to figure out whether any of those lines connect with Line 6 (2 and 4 do). That's four different pages to navigate. With the interchange column, all the information is presented concisely in one view. No other page navigation and no scrolling. You could go to the metro map, which is confined inside the fac tbar and tiny in size. Even expanded to 800px, there are so many lines that you would have to zoom in to 100% and follow Lines 6 and 11 through a tangle of other lines to determine the connections. As the number of lines increase, the interchange column becomes more useful as there are more lines interwoven into the map. Would Line 22 connect with all of the current lines? Probably not. The incremental space taken up by the additional digits conveys exponentially more information. Currently, the space to the right of the lines table is occupied by photographs of trains, which are not conveying information of comparable usefulness. Will you reconsider? ContinentalAve (talk) 18:07, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

I am not adamantly opposed to this idea, although it would just mean fixing the locations of the "language box" and the various pictures. My only concern is the rendering of different browsers and mobile platforms (and apps etc.), which so much media content cluttered into one place. Colipon+(Talk) 20:55, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Updates

Could somebody please check whether the info in the lede and in the infobox remains accurate after the december openings. There are some contradictory numbers over there. Thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:51, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Second longest?

How can it be that pages for shanghai metro and beijing metro both claim to be the second longet system in the world? 81.216.218.126 (talk) 20:53, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Well they need updating as the new systems open, and Beijing and SHanghai are close, so they are passing each other. Anyway, the error on the Beijing Subway article has been corrected, and is now saying 3rd longest. —fudoreaper (talk) 03:54, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

How many stations?

To try to settle the "how many stations are there" question once and for all I summarized the situation in a blog post: http://www.exploremetro.com/blog/how-many-stations-are-there-on-the-shanghai-metro

As of May 2013:

• If we count interchange stations as a single station, there are 250 stations. This matches with List of Shanghai Metro stations.
• If we count interchange stations as multiple stations, there are 296 stations.
• If we count interchange stations as multiple stations, but count shared tracks/platforms on Line 3/4 as a single station, there are 288 stations. This appears to be the preferred method of counting in the article.

Matthewmayer (talk) 13:06, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

We were discussing the same problem for Beijing. The conclusion (as I see it) would be, unless we have official statistics from Shanghai Metro (how they count stations, how many they have station chiefs etc), to write a footnote explaining all possible counts.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:39, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

As of July 2013 South Qilianshan Road Station has also opened so:

• If we count interchange stations as a single station, there are 251 stations. This matches with List of Shanghai Metro stations.
• If we count interchange stations as multiple stations, there are 297 stations.
• If we count interchange stations as multiple stations, but count shared tracks/platforms on Line 3/4 as a single station, there are 289 stations. This appears to be the preferred method of counting in the article.

203.175.172.162 (talk) 13:45, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

the first rapid transit system in the world to connect two different administrative divisions in a country or state

" the first rapid transit system in the world to connect two different administrative divisions in a country or state" - seems like a rather dubious claim. For example the London Underground serves Essex, Hertfordshire and Buckinghamshire. Matthewmayer (talk) 13:18, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

It's an unsourced claim added by an IP. I've removed it. -Zanhe (talk) 09:46, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Update route map

Does anyone have the ability to update the route map? I see the evolution map is up to date with the additions that opened in December 2015, but not the full route map. Thanks. --papageno (talk) 17:06, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

 Done The route map has been updated with a version accurate to 19 December 2016 File:SHMetro151219.svg thanks to User:Daniel129 --papageno (talk) 17:44, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Questionable edits

New user Richard1Gao (talk · contribs) has been making a lot of edits over the last two to three days. Are they accurate and correct? Useddenim (talk) 11:19, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Line numbers

Why is there no proposed line 22?? Georgia guy (talk) 01:32, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

@Georgia guy: The Jinshan Railway commuter line was also known as "Line 22" before it began operation, so it would probably cause confusion. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use {{re|Jc86035}} to reply to me 02:58, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Line 2 east extension exchange station includes Tangzhen Station

Tangzhen station has been acting as an interchange station between 8 carriage trains and 4 carriage trains in addition to Guanglan Road during morning and evening peak hours since August 12th. http://news.ifeng.com/a/20160810/49752571_0.shtml — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.78.171.1 (talk) 13:00, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

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Line 11 needs clarification

The text now is: "Line 11, one of the two branch lines of the metro system, operates a different partial service pattern. Trains travelling to and from the branch line terminate at Huaqiao Station and Sanlin respectively. Hence, a passenger who wants to travel from the terminus of the branch to the eastern terminus of the line, at Disney Resort must change trains."

I've never been to Disneyland but I think the text is either wrong or confusing. There is no way you need to change at Disneyland which is an end station. Here we have to deal with a metro line that has two branches at the west end, and some partial pattern issues on the east or both ends. Here is the table, someone just needs to puzzle it out: http://service.shmetro.com/en/hcskb/253.htm Seems to have some patterns ending at Sanlin, Loushan Road, Jiading Xincheng, Nanxiang... Szalai.laci (talk) 02:47, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

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Shanghai Metro length statistic

​It seems there is ongoing confusion about what may or may not be included in the length statistic on the Shanghai Metro article. It seems from convention, as well as alignment with Chinese Wikipedia, that we are including lines that are ticketed as part of the Shanghai Metro network only. This means, we include lines that are part of the fare system that comprises the numbered lines as well as Pujiang line only. Because there exist other railway lines that have a separate fare network than the above, they are not considered in the length calculation for the Shanghai Metro. Moreover, they have their own main articles respectively:

• Shanghai maglev train
• Jinshan railway
• Songjiang Tram
• Zhangjiang Tram

The most contentious aspect of this appears to be the Shanghai maglev train. Indeed, one argument to note is that the Shanghai Metro website itself includes the Maglev train as part of the length, see [4]. However, you will see that it does provide a breakdown with Maglev and non-Maglev lines, namely "上海轨道交通全网络运营线路总长将增至705公里（地铁676公里+磁浮29公里）" and hence for our purposes, we currently use the length that does not include the Maglev line due to the fact that the fare system is separate from that of the other lines - it is not one "network," per se.

I am actually open to a discussion on this matter on whether or not the Maglev lines and/or other lines should be included in this length calculation. But until we reach a consensus on what to include please keep the status quo for now. Heights^{(Want to talk?)} 23:49, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi,on Shanghai/China website side, maglev rail is considered as part of Shanghai Metro system. Given that the operator and management company is a Subsidiary of Shanghai Metro Group which it also operates line 16, it should also be included inside the Shanghai Metro route on Wiki? Don,t you think? Thanks -Ricky SUIS — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rikcysuis (talk • contribs) 17:59, 23 March 2019 (UTC)