Talk:Seinfeld/GA1

GA Review

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I am planning to shortly review this article and make comments on this sub-page. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 19:50, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Review (comments are chronological)

1. 'Many of its catch phrases have entered into the popular culture lexicon.' This should preferably go behind the critical receptions to the bottom of the first paragraph. Its location at the moment feels amiss.
2. 'Seinfeld stood out from the typical family- or coworker-driven TV sitcoms of its time.' Needs some examples of sitcoms at the time that deployed those dynamics. The following statements to this need ';' since they are connected.
3. Thomas Hibbs needs an article. If he is not notable enough to have one then he is not notable enough to be quoted.
4. Section on Jerry's stand-up routine should be placed under 'Evolution' since it shows change in the show's formula. A mention needs to be made in how the stand-up routine worked, not where it was present.
5. '[...] characters and plots from past episodes were frequently referenced or expanded upon.' Needs examples of episodes in which this happens I think.
6. 'He would later make use of season-long story arcs in his next series, Curb Your Enthusiasm.' Unnecessary without specific connection to Seinfeld. Better would be to share that the long story arcs are shared by both shows, otherwise Larry David is the only connection.
7. 'He fantasizes about being an architect and once pretended to be a marine biologist.' Needs expansion into George's fantasy jobs (I've seen a lot of Seinfeld and there are more), of which two examples are those mentioned.
8. 'She is notable among sitcom characters in that she is not the "straight face" of the show and behaves with much the same conceited attitude as her male friends.' Do you mean notable among female characters? The comment seems to be gender orientated (women being the voice of reason I suppose) but does not specifically state.
9. 'He will go out of his way to make Jerry's life miserable.' Future tense? Should be 'he goes'.
10. Characteristics: 'Several elements of Seinfeld fit in with a postmodern interpretation'. Such as, need examples when the comment is ambiguous.
11. 'Evolution'. Can't help but feeling 'Progression' or 'Evolution of the show [or Seinfeld]' would be better.
12. Awards and Nominations: make sure this section contains all the critical reception points made in lead, as per WP:LEAD.
13. Another scene: 'He mentioned he is far too busy to do it now' When was this said? Needs dating. '[...] do it now (January...)'
14. Reference 59. needs better formatting, it should be {{cite web

Hope that helps you. I shall let someone else make these revisions, and will check to see the progress shortly. GA has been put on-hold until these recommendations have been discussed or exacted. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 21:17, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

There are only three days left in which to edit and improve the article before I make a decision. As it stands I probably won't be passing it; there are issues with references, notes and wording and many of the above suggestions have yet to be implemented. Please if you would like to help, do it soon. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 17:47, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

1. Well-written:

   (a) the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct; and

   (b) it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.

   Particularly the section on Characters.

2. Verifiable with no original research:

   (a) it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline;

   (b) reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose); and

   (c) it contains no original research.

3. Broad in its coverage:

   (a) it addresses the main aspects of the topic; and

   (b) it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).

4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:

   (a) media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content; and

   A few more images would be good, the two present are near the top and not equally spaced

   (b) media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 20:31, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Failed criteria (original research and MoS). MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 20:31, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

characters

if Kenny Bania and Jackie Chiles are mentioned in the characters section, it only makes sense that Mr. (Justin) Pitt, who is in two more episodes than these two, that he is mentioned here. same with Mickey Abbott, the midget who is friends with Kramer. 1 more episode for him IAmTheCoinMan (talk) 10:04, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

formatting

This article uses inconsistent formatting when it comes to naming seasons of the show. I see "Season 1" (which I believe to be correct), "Season One", and "season one". Shouldn't some consistency be brought to this, since this is a good article?--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 21:35, 22 July 2010 (UTC)