Talk:Seanad Éireann/Archive 1

Archive 1

Inconsistency

The opening paragraph describes the Seanad as "not directly elected", but the "Calls for Reform" section goes on to say that the 2004 Report on Seanad Reform "recommended…that 32 seats should be filled by direct elections". In fact, the 2004 report provided for the direct election of twenty-six Senators, as well as the election by third-level graduates of a further six. As none of the Senators — members of the university panels included — are regarded in the opening paragraph as being directly elected, and as it is, I think, generally agreed that the election of the six university Senators does not count as a form of "direct election" (and would not count as such even under the provisions of the 2004 report) I have modified the "Calls for Reform" section accordingly. -- Deireadh Fómhair 23:46, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Notable senators include some from its previous incarnation viz Yeats and Gogarty. Should they go? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.156.242.75 (talk) 18:17, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Name used in English

Is it normally called the "Senate" or the "Seanad" in English? This paper on reform from one of its own committees (warning PDF) uses "Seanad". Timrollpickering 11:24, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

I would say that "the Seanad" is the more common form in the Republic. Djegan 13:42, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Bias

I have just entered (yet again) the names of several Ascendancy names and titles to the list of former Senators of Seanad Éireann (30th/3rd/2012). I hope these names and titles WILL NOT be removed this time. And this is comming from me, an Irish nationalist from the nine-county Province of Ulster!! Whether we like it or not, these Ascendancy figures were part of our political development and are part of our constitutional history, certainly in modern times. I appeal to the general editor of this site to keep these names (and titles) here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.77.84.131 (talk) 01:21, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

They WILL continue to be removed as they were members of the Seanad Éireann (Irish Free State) not the Seanad Éireann established under the 1937 constitution. Its has nothing to do with Ascendancy or bias, you are just putting them in the wrong article. Most are already in the correct article. Snappy (talk) 16:45, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

That sounds reasonable enough! That is a fair enough point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.107.75.114 (talk) 11:16, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Recent article move

Please do not move this article without discussing it first here or at WT:IE first. Tx, Snappy (talk) 13:59, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

New numbers

I have adjusted the numbers to take into account that Fine Gael lost two senators, Healy Eames and Bradford, on the abortion act vote. So they are down to 17 and the Independents are now up to 15. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.28.178.10 (talk) 14:13, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm afraid those edits were incorrect. I updated the article to take account of those changes in July, see the article history for details. Snappy (talk) 16:54, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

English pronunciation for this word

I've started a conversation for this at Talk:Tánaiste. --101.160.13.231 (talk) 23:35, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Audio pronunciation file added, as per request template on this talk page. I have now deleted the request Joe byrne (talk) 19:10, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Outdated info regarding Grace O'Sullivan

section Members of the 25th Seanad (2016–present refers to her as a senator but her page says as of 07/2019 she is an MEP now not a senator morsontologica (talk) 23:18, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Outdated info regarding Grace O'Sullivan

section Members of the 25th Seanad (2016–present refers to her as a senator but her page says as of 07/2019 she is an MEP now not a senator morsontologica (talk) 23:18, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Leader of the Opposition

At the moment, the "leader of the opposition" is listed as both Bacik and Ó Donnghaile, as at the time of election both Labour and SF held five seats. However now that SF are reduced to four seats, does this now make Bacik the "leader of the opposition" as the leader of the largest non-government party, and should Ó Donnghaile be removed from that part therefore? Just looking for clarification before any edits are made to be on the safe side. ser! (chat to me). 19:51, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

As it's been a week and I'm still not sure, pinging @CeltBrowne: they might know more about this than I would. ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 16:07, 16 March 2021 (UTC)