Talk:Sea Skua

Image

weres the picture gone.Corustar 21:24, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

• Dunno; wikipedia deletes images all over the place, they're terrified of getting sued for copyright. Stupid if you ask me, but they didn't. BobThePirate 22:10, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Mid East user

i dont know if theres mention of this in the article but i think a middle eastern navy uses surface ship launched missles may be saudia arabia im not sure but i did find information out a while ago.Corustar 19:34, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

There is a separate list of operators in the info box versus the list in the article. I can only personally verify Kuwait, as I have toured Kuwaiti boats with Sea Skua launchers and seen references as well, so I'm adding it to the info box. If anyone else wants to iron out the discrepancy, feel free. Hzoi 09:22, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Is the reference to the Skua (bird) needed? I'd reverted because I thought it had been a joke of some sort. Kuwait does operate Sea Skua on its Fast Patrol Boats. Here is a reference link if it helps.

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/combattante/ Justin A Kuntz 09:35, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Falklands

Added a fact tag, everything I've ever read points to the performance in the Falklands war as being outstanding. Justin A Kuntz 09:43, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree, I suspect the person who added this is conflating Sea Skua with Sea Dart. Riddley 11:24, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

The Sea dart missile had a good war - the Type 45's less so.GraemeLeggett 12:01, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I think you mean the Type 42 Destroyer (Sheffield class), Type 45 hasn't finished construction yet. Pedant goes and hides in the corner.... Justin A Kuntz 12:04, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

That may well be the case, but I have read the opposite opinion, that Sea Dart was dissapointing due to the Arg. pilots knowing the engagement envelope etc. I've never seen a negative assessment of Sea Skua in the Falklands before the entry in this article. I had a look in the history and the OP did actually include a reference in the edit summary. I think the point being made was that, according to the ref. cited by the OP, the Sea Skua would have been expected to be much more lethal against a ship such as the Alférez Sobral whereas in reality it took four hits and was not fully disabled. Riddley 12:25, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I've reverted the POV and irrelevant parts of the anonymous edit. The editor seems to have an agenda as their only other contributions were to paint the worst possible light on Rapier and include other irrelevant info which would be better placed in the Falkland's War article itself. Riddley 12:38, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to add a comment about the attack on the Alferez Sobral. In the book "The Argentine Fight For The Falklands", by Martin Middlebrook, page 118, the commander of the Sobral, Lt-Commander Sergio Roca, gives his account of the attack. Of the 1st two missiles used, 1 hit and the other passed over the bridge. He was a direct eye-witness to that. The other two probably hit but he didn't see. I'd like to put that into the article. pmw2cc, 20 Nov 2007 Pmw2cc (talk) 20:13, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Not sure about that, the information on the Alferez Sobral indicates Lt-Commander Sergio Roca was killed in the attack. This is confirmed in Argentine accounts. Justin talk 20:56, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Do'h, thank you for the correction. I just checked the book again and the account comes from Lt. Sergio Bazan, the 2nd in command of the Sobral. Pmw2cc (talk) 22:12, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

If you've got a source you're confident in, go ahead an make the edit making sure you reference it correctly. I always try to cross-check sources as some inevitably some report incorrect information. I had 5 separate sources once that all contained the same incorrect information - I guess they all used the same original source. Justin talk 22:40, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Replacement?

The article states that the German Navy will replace theirs in 2012. With what exactly? There isn't much in the Skua's size range on the market. There WAS a French missile called the ANL that Germany planned on buying, but lost interest when the Cold War ended. The RBS-15 is too large for helicopters, so the only weapon I can think off would be the anti-ship version AGM-65 Maverick. A Lynx should be able to carry one on each side in place of the double mount of the Sea Skua, but Germany seems to be leaning more towards European weapons as of late.

The PARS 3 could be ready by the deadline, but lacks the necessary punch.96.238.134.140 (talk) 09:38, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

AGM-119 Penguin missile is another missile that is similar rang and size... slightly larger range. Thing is it is the same ag. They maybe going to the Naval Strike Missile which is the Penguin's bigger brother. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2406:5A00:4800:7000:34AC:FDBB:65A6:FA5F (talk) 08:36, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Current users

For The Military Balance 2019, the Sea Skua is in service in Brazil, Kuwait and Malaysia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Francomemoria (talk • contribs) 18:31, 4 February 2020 (UTC)