Talk:Savić Marković Štedimlija
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Untitled edit
Wanderer, Montenegro wasn't independent really at all. It was a puppet-state under Italian control and then German occupation (whereas most of the territory was even not held by the occupiers, but the Chetniks throughout most of the war). --PaxEquilibrium 21:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, I suppose you're right. I was trying to convey that it was more independent than in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia, when it didn't officially exist at all, but you're explanation is better ;). --Thewanderer 22:24, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- How am I doing writing the article so far? Please help over 'ere to write a NPOV article. --PaxEquilibrium 22:59, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Critika1 edit
It has nothing to do with me, but then's ideology.
What Stedimlija was saying then was insane to people as much as what Jevrem Brkovic is saying now. I don't care if Montenegrins are "really" Serbs or not (which is a question of both immoral and nonsensical definitions), but we cannot rewrite what happened then. To tell a Montenegrin he's not a Serb (whatever that meant) back then would be like calling Miodrag (of the Liberal Party) a Chetnik today.
Besides, the remains still "scar" the world. In the world, history of Montenegro is still treated as "became out of Serbs" in practically everywhere - from the LaRousse, Brockhaus and Britannica encyclopedias, across the CIA World Factbook to all media reporters like BBC, CNN and Times - it's even more extreme than the situation in Austria, they believe that Montenegrins are "real" Serbs. Considering how 100 years are needed to purge/change these things... who knows how will it take... --PaxEquilibrium 12:09, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
- Critika1, he denies that Montenegrins exist, calling them serbianized Croats. He always considered himself a Croat. His ideology is one of those that rocked (similar to Mile Budak, but in Montenegro) Ustashism. How on earth is he "full monte"? --PaxEquilibrium 16:05, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Piperi clan edit
He seemed to know he came from this particular group. Is it not inappropriate to call it Serb on this page if he himself had a Pan-Croat ideology? Evlekis (talk) 22:36, 30 July 2008 (UTC)