Talk:Santa Clarita, California/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: SounderBruce (talk · contribs) 06:01, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Will review in the coming days. SounderBruce 06:01, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

• Use an en dash instead of hyphens when dealing with dates or related terms (e.g. council–manager, Newhall–Saugus) per MOS:DASH.
• Every paragraph needs an inline citation, and there are dozens that are missing them.
• I suggest that you find a copyeditor (perhaps from WP:GOCE) once you're done correcting the sourcing issues, as the article isn't written with professional prose in some sections.
• The first two subsections in History should be merged, as they are relatively short
• The "first use of Santa Clarita" is contradicted by the paragraph above, which implies that the school district used it firsrt.
• Much of the History section is choppy and needs better transitions between events. Beginning multiple paragraphs with "On X date, Y happened" with no transition is jarring for readers.
• The earthquake's "devastation" isn't described all that well without numbers (e.g. deaths, injuries, homes destroyed).
• Money magazine ranking should be moved to another section.
• The Geography section is a mess, between the bolded city name, the lack of citations, no description of the actual city boundaries, and the inline navbox
• Cityscape section is too detailed, especially if each area has its own article
• ZIP codes section is very unnecessary and needs to be removed
• The 1990 census section is unnecessary.
• Too many tables in the Government sections; the city department directors are not notable enough to need their own table.
• The shopping centers section needs to be trimmed down quite a bit, as strip malls and minor malls don't need to be mentioned unless they have something significant and notable.
• "Daily News circulation numbers within the Santa Clarita Valley are not known." This gets contradicted by the next subsection.
• Television section has an inline external link, which violates WP:ELNO
• Highways section should be rewritten as a paragraph or two, rather than a list
• Santa Clarita Diet should be a one or two sentence mention tucked under the rest of the Film section, not given top billing in the Culture section.
• Old Town Newhall section doesn't quite fit the Culture section
• Where's the local arts scene (murals, statues, museums, theatres, music) in the Culture section?

You've done well to expand this article, but it needs quite a bit more work before it's ready to be a GA. I suggest finding a copyeditor and perhaps trying a venue like peer review to get feedback before renominating. SounderBruce 05:56, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

I am trying to elevate the article to GA status while keeping its size above 150,000 bytes (which is a pretty decent article size given the city's population). I'm aware that size doesn't always matter, but shorter articles tend to contain less information and less frequently qualify for GA status. Old Town Newhall is included in the culture section because it is a historic area of the city with a western theme, containing (among other attractions) the Walk of Western Stars. Crossover1370 (talk | contribs) 06:44, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

WP:SIZERULE states that an article over 100 kB should be split off. Shorter articles do pass GA with ease if they still manage to be comprehensive and thorough without being overwhelmingly detailed. SounderBruce 21:03, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Most articles on major U.S. cities are well over 100 kB - even Everett, Washington, which has half the population of Santa Clarita and whose article was written mostly by you (and is a GA), is 205 kB. The article should be reasonably sized and detailed and should use professional language. I added the ZIP codes section after seeing a similar section on the Palmdale, California article (which is rated C-class) - I thought it would be useful information. The sentence "Daily News circulation numbers within the Santa Clarita Valley are not known" is not contradicted by the next paragraph because the next paragraph discusses the Santa Clarita Valley Signal, a completely different newspaper. Again, Old Town Newhall is included in the culture section because it is a historic area of the city with a western theme, containing (among other attractions) the Walk of Western Stars. Crossover1370 (talk | contribs) 23:28, 17 June 2021 (UTC)