Talk:Sangram (1974 film)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 20:24, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

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Sheikh Mujibur Rahman

• ... that Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, the first President of Bangladesh, acted in Sangram film as special appearance? Source: https://bangladeshpost.net/posts/the-film-in-which-bangabandhu-acted-56217
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/One Griswold Street
  • Comment: I quoted a persons' saying from a source in the article. Please don't mark that as a copyright infringement.

Created by Mehediabedin (talk). Self-nominated at 21:20, 11 June 2022 (UTC).

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• Long enough:
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Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

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Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Consider going through WP:GOCER again, like you did with Murad Takla ^{(funny coincidence that I'm the one who c/e'd that article!)}. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 21:43, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

• @PerfectSoundWhatever: If you have doubt with Bangladesh Post, then it is not a issue because I have more two sources on it from two reliable newspapers. But they are written in Bengali that's why I cited Bangladesh Post that is in English. So should I replace the source with alternative bengali source or not? And hellow! Thanks for Murad Takla. Can you propose me a good hook sentence (If you want me to do it then I will do it)? And yes I will copyedit the article in days. I agree that it needs copyediting. Mehedi Abedin 22:21, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
  • Yes, seeing other newspapers would be great, even if they're non-english. Here is a proposed hook that is better worded: — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 02:12, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
    • ALT1 ... that Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, the first president of Bangladesh, had a cameo appearance in the 1974 film Sangram? Source: https://bangladeshpost.net/posts/the-film-in-which-bangabandhu-acted-56217

• @PerfectSoundWhatever: The hook is perfect. Thanks. I replaced the source with better (here is the new source). I copyedited the article. I even kept the photo in "Cast" section. Can you please review the article again? Mehedi Abedin 14:19, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
  • @Mehediabedin: I am also concerned about the reliability of samakal.com. Again, I can't find any "about" page on the site, any authors, or any people who work there other than a single editor. I can't speak so well on the quality of the samakal.com writing, but I checked 2 articles on en.samakal.com, and they both are direct copies of other articles: See [1] vs [2] and [3] vs [4]. I do not believe a publishing site that plagiarizes should be trusted, even if it's under a different language section of their website. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 20:57, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
  • Do you have any other sources, or any way to prove that samakal.com's Bengali writing is reliable? — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 21:01, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
    • @PerfectSoundWhatever: What are you talking about? Citing from Daily Samakal is reliable. Samakal is one of national newspaper in Bangladesh! Even they have a article in wikipedia. See - Samakal. Even its english article are copied, its Bengali news articles are original and realiable. And even you doubt that, I can provide another source (Jaijaidin and Ajkerpatrika) This first source is from another national newspaper Jaijaidin. This newspaper wrote "চাষী নজরুল ইসলাম পরিচালিত 'সংগ্রাম' সিনেমায় নিজের ভূমিকায় ক্যামিও করেছিলেন বঙ্গবন্ধু শেখ মুজিবুর রহমান।" (Translation: Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman made a cameo in his role in the movie 'Sangram' directed by Chashi Nazrul Islam.) But the source doesn’t tell use more than that. So the Samakal source is needed for DYK. But if you doubt Samakal then we can use Jaijaidin as the supportive source and Samakal as the main source in the article. Or we can use only Ajker Patrika (although the newspaper don't have article in wikipedia). The news covers other reliable sites also. Mehedi Abedin 21:20, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
      • A newspaper having a wikipedia article means nothing. Many sources that don't have wikipedia articles are reliable, and many that do have articles are unreliable. The Samakal article is unsourced, having only a single primary source. The article could probably be PROD'd or AFD'd, depending on the WP:BEFORE. I'll look into the Jaijaidin source momentarily. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 21:27, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
        • You said that "I can't find any "about" page on the site", for your information, Most reputable newspaper websites in Bangladesh don't have about section (For example, see Prothom Alo, the newspaper don't do plagiarism. Somoy TV has about page but I don't know if they copy from others or not) So it doesn’t matter. And don't forget that the Ajker Patrika source cover the whole fact in the hook. Mehedi Abedin 21:40, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
          • Thank you. Good points about the "about" pages, but I was much more concerned with the apparent plagiarism. jaijaidinbd.com looks good to the best of my abilities, so I'll AGF on that source. If we have to use 2 sources, I'd really prefer jaijaidinbd.com and Bangladesh Post as opposed to Samakal. Marking this DYK nom as Approved (only ALT1 and ideally using the jaijaidinbd.com source). — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 22:24, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
          • @PerfectSoundWhatever: Thanks. Then I am putting these two sources in the article. Mehedi Abedin 22:39, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

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