Talk:Samadhi of Meher Baba

Begin the Beguine

There were many recorded versions of "Begin the Beguine", does anyone know which version was played continuously for seven days when Meher Baba died? Imagine that experience. We've got to find out which version was played, so readers will have more knowledge of what that setting was like. Randy Kryn 03:59, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

It was the version by Leslie Hutchinson. Source is The Awakener, 1970, Volume 13, Numbers 1 and 2, p. 8. To hear the actual version go here. Dazedbythebell (talk) 12:23, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Delete the page or nom it for Afd?

The page was removed twice and I reverted twice, but should have reverted only once and then brought it to a talk page after the second revert. Does anyone think this page can be saved with a source hunt? I think it at least should be given a chance, and I'll leave a note at the Baba page. I'm not a Baba follower, and there are some there who might know if this is an important page to Wikipedia's Baba collection or not, and if some reputable Indian newspaper may have reported on it when the shrine opened or later. Randy Kryn (talk) 19:31, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

You seem to be referring to BRD. So self-revert now please because you really should have done that after your first revert was overturned.

Furthermore, you have previously specifically said that this is an important page but now you are saying that you will ask around Baba followers to see if it is! And, still more, you seem to fail to grasp how underdeveloped Indian newspapers were in the 1920s etc, which is the timescale you have mentioned elsewhere for researching this topic - literacy in India is still underdeveloped today, and was much worse then. Those newspapers which did exist then were either very establishment or very anti-establishment because of the British Raj. The latter tended to be suppressed and had revolutionary/freedom goals with little space for reportage of cults; the former had little space for them simply because cults are not establishment issues.

You know the background to this article. There has very obviously been a walled garden created around the Baba topics roughly 12 years ago, and the person who did so self-admitted to being a follower of this rather obscure cult figure. You can't keep putting off deconstruction of the wall just because something independent might exist somewhere, which has been your position regarding these articles for some years, even though not yourself a follower. Procrastination when this has been ongoing for over a decade already is not a good look. Source it in accordance with WP:RS and WP:GNG or lose it now. The thing can always be reinstated if and when those sources emerge. - Sitush (talk) 06:02, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Weighing in as another new page patroller, I was willing to give the article the benefit of the doubt at first due to my unfamiliarity with the subject matter, but I agree that the sourcing as presented in the article draft is far from GNG, and defer to Sitush and WBG's greater familiarity with the subject matter and context (and the specific arguments above) as far as the likelihood of sources existing out there somewhere. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 17:15, 23 September 2019 (UTC)