Talk:Sam Hurd

Latest comment: 12 years ago by Eagles247 in topic Irony



Glaring Typo

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Could somebody please fix "underprivileged" in "Hurd, who also runs a program called "Running with the Hurd" a program aimed at helping underprivledged young children"?

  Done Typos corrected. Eagles 24/7 (C) 21:50, 16 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Irony

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I don't wish any ill-will on this man; I don't know him other than from his short stint with Da Bears--and none of us know about his innocence or guilt. But I came here to learn more about him (having of course read the news today), and I gotta tell you, while true, and ostensibly neutral, the irony in the current opening line is so thick that it almost borders on POV:

Samuel George Hurd, III is an American football wide receiver who is currently a free agent.

Given the fact that no one is going to sign him right now (and I defy anyone to find any evidence that he's even looking for employment right now), can't we change this from our standard boilerplate for recently-released players to something that doesn't look like it's making fun of him? HuskyHuskie (talk) 05:12, 17 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

What do you suggest? Eagles 24/7 (C) 05:41, 17 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
How's this? HuskyHuskie (talk) 03:38, 21 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
First of all, your version is clearly better written than mine, and so it stays, no doubt. But I am puzzled by the logic of your edit summary. Could you explain further? HuskyHuskie (talk) 03:47, 21 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
(edit conflict) Whoops, didn't see this before I rewrote the lead. I don't think the opening sentence should consist of his drug arrest, as the basis for the story gaining so much coverage is that Hurd is an NFL player on a team IMO. It does deserve mention in the lead, however, and I have rewritten the lead. Eagles 24/7 (C) 03:47, 21 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
Well, like I said, your version is all-around better. But I still don't understand your point. Of course the coverage is due to his being an NFL player. So what? There have been lots of people who engaged in obstruction of justice, but Nixon's case was notable because he was the president. That doesn't keep it from being front and center in his article, does it? Oh well, don't worry about it, the point is moot thanks to your superior writing skills. HuskyHuskie (talk) 03:54, 21 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
What I'm trying to say is that the first sentence of an article should be an overall summary of, in this case, why this person is notable. Hurd's notability is first and foremost being an NFL player, then his drug allegations, which is why I believe his NFL career should be mentioned in the opening sentence before the drug charges. Nixon's article does not mention Watergate in the opening sentence, but since he is known for the scandal, it is still mentioned later in the lead. Thanks for the compliments, by the way, it is greatly appreciated.   Eagles 24/7 (C) 04:03, 21 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
I now understand your thinking. Thanks for explaining. HuskyHuskie (talk) 05:16, 21 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
The current version is very tastefully written. You guys have done well.174.124.148.94 (talk) 13:48, 5 January 2012 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! Eagles 24/7 (C) 20:56, 5 January 2012 (UTC)Reply
The credit belongs entirely to Eagles24/7.HuskyHuskie (talk) 01:53, 6 January 2012 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, but you deserve some credit for pointing this out, too. Eagles 24/7 (C) 01:54, 6 January 2012 (UTC)Reply