Talk:Sagrantino

Clarification and disambiguation

Like several Italian wines, sagrantino is both the name of a wine and that of a grape variety. This article correctly starts by describing the grape variety, but adds details that seem to relate to the wine(s).
Even the picture indicates "Montefalco Sagrantino" which is the correct name of the DOCG wine, not the grape. There should perhaps be a disambiguation page directing to either Sagrantino (grape) or Montefalco Sagrantino (wine). Also, two qualities of wine that I know are made with sagrantino: Montefalco Sagrantino (with "secco" and "passito" types) and the "rosso" type of Montefalco DOC. The first was defined a DOC wine only in 1979 and became DOCG in 1992. The Montefalco rosso (DOC from 1979) can use 10% to 75% of sagrantino grape. (Roberto La Ferla (talk) 22:22, 18 March 2015 (UTC))

Hi Roberto - I've done a little bit of editing around Sagrantino (my favourite grape!) and made Montefalco Rosso redirect to the Montefalco DOC article which I've expanded a bit, as well as the Montefalco Sagrantino article. I'm thinking we should refactor the middle paragraph here, to just refer readers to the two wine articles, and perhaps add a disambig tag at the top. I'd also like to expand the history bit (separate section) with info from the d'Agata Wine Grapes of Italy book, and stuff published by the Consorzio (my Italian is sufficient to get the gist of it, at least!) Interested in your thoughts? Jon (talk) 23:46, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikidata grape entities

I'd like to hook up this article (and eventually all grape variety articles) to the Wikidata grape variety entries. For instance, this article is referred to in the Sagrantino Wikidata entry, Q1421570. What we really should do is edit Template:Infobox grape variety to hook this up automatically somehow, by just giving it the VIVC number. I recently edited it to just do it manually as an external link to the VIVC database, but to do it properly requires Wikidata fu I don't currently have. If anyone knows how to do that, please get in touch :-) Jon (talk) 23:33, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Also, thank you random stranger at IP 217.149.164.138 for your corrections! :-) Jon (talk) 23:52, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

This article is not a sales brochure, not a business directory

The USA section of this article needs to be a summary, and is not an opportunity for sales pitches or listings of wineries that make Sagrantino wine, unless it is particularly notable in its own right. Although I'm sure it's lovely wine, the wine competition at the local rodeo down the road is probably not a sufficiently WP:NOTABLE award. Jon (talk) 23:51, 10 October 2020 (UTC)