Talk:Saen Phonlaphai

Latest comment: 7 years ago by Paul 012 in topic Pronunciation

Pronunciation

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Pretty sure it's pronounced [แสน-พน-พ่าย]. The name is constructed of three words, two of which are not of Pali/Sanskrit origin. As such it's pronounced word-by-word without the middle -a. --Paul_012 (talk) 04:31, 4 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

พล is a special case. When it's part of a two-syllable compound, the compound is pronounced in three syllables. Examples are th:ขุนไกรพลพ่าย, พลพาย, พลขับ, พลเรือน, พลเมือง, พลรบ, พลกาย, พลความ, etc. A similar case is กรม, such as กรมเวียง, กรมวัง, กรมคลัง, กรมนา, กรมหลวง, กรมขุน, etc., which are all pronounced in three syllables. --iudexvivorum (talk) 05:45, 4 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
I thought that applied only when it would make three syllables out of what would otherwise be two syllables. E.g. กรมพระ is pronounced [กรม-มะ-พระ] but กรมพระยา is pronounced [กรม-พระ-ยา]. Anyway, if [พน-ละ-พ่าย] is actually correct (and in any case really, since it's a proper noun) the name should probably be spelled as one word without spaces. --Paul_012 (talk) 12:32, 4 July 2016 (UTC)Reply