Talk:Saadia Gaon

Latest comment: 2 years ago by 100.15.127.199 in topic sefer yetzirah

Category:Mizrahi Jews?

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I don't think the Saadia Gaon should be in this category... While it's true that he'd be called "Mizrachi" for living in Mesopotamia today, the fact of the matter is that the guy's been dead for over a millennium. "Ashkenazi" and "Sfaradi" didn't develop distinctly until the 11th or 12th centuries, 3 centuries after the Saadia Gaon was dead and gone, and at that time there was certainly no such thing as "Mizrachi"... Tomertalk 06:28, 27 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

No argument here. Feel free to revert. - Gilgamesh 23:57, 27 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

It's an anachronism. JFW | T@lk 02:43, 29 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Well — he actually was not from Babel, but from Miṣrayim... Which adds even more to the problematicness of coining him Mizraḥi. And (/but) at the same time, the argument whether someone is considered a part of a specific tradition after the fact should not have any implication in itself. Thus, Moshe ben Maimon was not any less Sephardi even though his work is also an integrated part of the Ashkenazi traditions...
All this being said — the Ashkenazi/Sephardi division is not the question here — but whether Sa‘adia was Mizraḥi. Now, the distinction between the East (Babel) and the West (Ereṣ Yisrael/Mi̋rayim/etc.) was clearly there already in Talmudic times. But Sa‘adia does not fit neatly into either of these categories (which are not anachronistic, actually) either.
I do not at all think that it is correct to take away Sa‘adia’s categorisation as a Middle Eastern Jew — he was exactly that, and it is very anachronistic to “hide” that. I would suggest categorising him as Egyptian Jewish (or whichever supercategory includes Egyptian Jewish), since that clearly was his main background.
(Sorry about the messy presentation. Tired.... (zzzzzz...)) -- Olve 09:11, 29 January 2006 (UTC)Reply
Olve, "Mizrachi" doesn't mean "Middle-Eastern". tia. Tomertalk 23:31, 29 January 2006 (UTC)Reply
I agree that it doesn’t correspond 100 %. But what would you propose to put there instead? -- Olve 02:23, 30 January 2006 (UTC)Reply
Honestly, I think Category:Geonim covers it rather well. Tomertalk 16:06, 30 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

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Why is the Arabic ofr this name not appearing on the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.212.3.157 (talk) 10:06, 31 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

sefer yetzirah

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This is also on Sefaria. https://www.sefaria.org/Rasag_on_Sefer_Yetzirah.1.1.2?vhe=Rasage_on_Sefer_Yetzirah,_Warsaw_1884&lang=bi 100.15.127.199 (talk) 18:08, 27 February 2022 (UTC)Reply