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People of Rye
editwhy isn't Spike Milligan mentioned here? The town is mentioned in the article on him.
I wouldn't put the word "seminal" in front of a description of a lesbian writer - "Radclyffe Hall (1880–1943), seminal lesbian writer." can we say something like "highly original and influential?" Itullis (talk) 10:40, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
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editI have just arrived in my wiki travels at this corner of East Sussex/Kent borders. Having taken some steps to bring some "new" thinking to several towns in Kent (Dover, Maidstone, Ashford); and, since my home town is Hastings, I took a peek there. I have read a great deal lately about the fact that A Level students are copying piecemeal from WikiPedia for their submissions, so I was pretty horrified to find that the Hastings article was as bad and as naively produced as ever I could have imagined, I took it in hand. I guess that sounds pompous and it probably is! but the article was written in a way that it was obvious no checking of facts had ever been done. As it happened the article was noted as having no references (footnotes); there are now 33. It just read like a bad piece of Public Relations ...
As a member of the WikiProject Geography team I made mention in the talk page of Hastings of the need for contributors to look at Wikipedia:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about settlements - and the same thing occurs here, I'm afraid. There are some 13 headings which should be included, among which are:
- History: Why no dates? Town charter - 1289 ("under Normans"?); town wall - a Google found a medieval ref as 14th century (Stephen was 12th) It is also interesting to note that of the statements made at bullet points (NB articles should be in prose, not lists) the second two are at almost complete variance with the first External Link (Rye Museum): the FACT that Rye became a Cinque Port "limb" in 1189, not 13th century; in 1500 it was one of the "finest of the Cinque Ports" (no date given for that vague "lost its importance"); and now Rye Harbour has an relatively important role with the firm SEACON shipping out stone is ignored. There was the battle of Rye Bay (1350) and smuggling - both completely ignored. And the Romans were here too ...
- I know that WWI soldiers called the battle wipers but is the tower also pronounced like that?
- Governance - quite tricky this - officially just a civil parish, Rye is CALLED a town and has Mayor
- Geography - change of coastline - details? ties in very much with history.
- Transport - how do the links described assist the town's ecenomy: good/bad links? Are we sure that the Marshlink Line actually runs from Brighton?
- Demography/economy - "economy relies heavily on tourism" - nothing else at all? too obvious a statement: facts needed. It is a market town - local area centre?
- education ... and culture ... and sports ... and religious buildings
We have to remember the readers - this talks more to locals. - and facts MUST be checked! Peter Shearan (talk) 16:18, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
- Just a quickie - the castle is indeed called "wipers" tower by the locals. The pub's called The Wipers as well (but spelt Ypres). And the Marshlink runs from Ashford to Hastings. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.247.82.75 (talk) 16:32, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
- I live near Steyning in West Sussex, and the people around here call that tower in Rye the "Eeps" tower! As an American who thinks he know how to pronounce French words sometimes, when we visited Rye in 2020 I told my British wife we needed to visit the "Eh-preh" tower, and she laughed at me. "That's 'Eeps', my love!" Cyberherbalist (talk) 13:42, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
The article has this statement: The "Landgate" (the only surviving one of four original fortified entrances to Rye) dates from 1329 in the early years of the reign of King Edward III. It is still the only vehicular route into the medieval centre of Rye and is suitable only for light vehicles. In fact, I've been in Rye, and that Landgate isn't the only vehicular route into the medieval center. There are in fact five vehicular routes into the medieval center. This can be seen clearly on any map. I've edited the sentence to omit the "only vehicular route" claim. Cyberherbalist (talk) 14:03, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
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Market town status?
editDoes Rye hold formal "market town" status through Royal Charter to justify inclusion in Category:Market towns in East Sussex? The article is unclear. Thanks. p.r.newman (talk) 12:52, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
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embayment
editI had never seen this word before, so I followed the link, which leads to an article on "bay." The article never uses the word "embayment" once. I looked the word up in a dictionary & found no distinction between "bay" and "embayment." I'm unsure whether to remove the link, change the word to "bay," add the word "bay" in parentheses, or edit the "bay" article to include the statement that "embayment" means the same thing.
Also, somebody's been vandalising the talk page with middle-school penis humor, but that's even more trivial. Lucy Kemnitzer (talk) 16:43, 3 December 2021 (UTC)Lucy Kemnitzer