Talk:Russophilia/Archive 1

Archive 1

Moscowphilism

I changed English: Moscowphilism into just (Moscowphilism) as I believe mentioning that it is in English is redundant. This term is unusual but it is used in historiographical literature[1][2]and it being an equivalent to a known Ukrainian term merits its mentioning in brackets. I would appreciate anyone voicing their opinion before just editing silently.Hillock65 16:35, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

merge

Parts of this article should be merged with Ukrainian Russophiles, as both cover the same subject matter.--Hillock65 03:21, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Problem is that this article is simply underdeveloped. Russophilia is much more a general subject than the political movement in W. Ukraine 100 years ago. That was a very distinct movement. This article is by far more general but I added the "details" tag, to make sure they are linked and help maintain their consistency. --Irpen 03:31, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Russophiles in Ukriane? It is absured,most of the people in Ukraine are Russian,there are Kievan Rus,Muscovite Rus,White Rus,and others. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.181.184.22 (talk) 19:42, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

I think both articles should be merged into one article, and that there should be much broader coverage Russophilia in the former Soviet Union. Charles Essie (talk) 21:20, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

The Galician Russophile article is about a very specific phenomenon in a very specific region and time. While a general article about Russophilia ought to include a summary of this article and alink to it, this topic is an independent one worthy of its own article.Faustian (talk) 00:07, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Well, at the very least, this article should be expanded, in that it includes very little information about the history of Russophilia, and it's current status. Charles Essie (talk) 17:23, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Notable Russophiles

Is being a politician with friendly ties to Russia (or more particularly its leadership) enough to justify someone's (alleged) "Russophilia"? Or is it rather meant to be a wall of shame? If someone political leader has friendly ties to the USA/China is that Americanophilia/Sinophilia? Is this list rather meant to be a Wall of Shame along the lines of notable highly "unbiased" Western news organizations?

Under this section, on the 28th of September 2019, user Daboluo123 made an edit, stating "fixed grammar". However the only edit that was made, was the removal of Recep Erdogan from the list of Notable Russophiles. This is a deceitful use of the notes, in order to politicise content. --Frisodubach (talk) 21:44, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Erdogan is not Russophile. It is nonsense. He is simply playing politics to his own advantage. Staszek Lem (talk) 23:47, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

This does not take away the wrongful description of the edit. This is almost clearly done to hide the actual change. Which is the core issue here. If the user had actual sources and good reason, they could have simply stated so. As to what Erdogan's intentions are, I don't think you could comment on what is going on inside his head. And this is certainly not the place to speculate on this.Frisodubach (talk) 12:37, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Do not attribute malice to simple laziness or sloppiness. As for sources, you got your logic broken: you need sources to add Erdogan, not to remove him. As for what's going in Erdogan's head, in the talk page I can comment on whatever I want. By the way, I am not permitted to comment on Erdogan's head, but you permit yourself to comment on evil intentions of a fellow wikipedian. Double standards, colleague. Staszek Lem (talk) 21:03, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Recent edits

Fenetrejones,

you really try to invent very special interpreation for Russophilia, especially calling Ribbentrop like that is really awesome, contradicted even wikitionary you used as a source, and now renaming to pro-Russian does not really helps, this page is for Russophiles....no consensus.(KIENGIR (talk) 10:38, 16 December 2020 (UTC))

KIENGIR, I have no idea what you are saying. "Ribbentrop trop is awesome"? To love Russia, does not mean that you want to be annexed by Russia. He opposed Hitler's invasion of Russia, only supported the Japan alliance to oppose the United States and not the Soviet Union and during ww2 he wanted Hitler to rebuild ties with Russia (All on his wikipedia page). However, I will concede that may not exactly be Russophlia.Fenetrejones (talk) 03:22, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

It is definetly not, it's politics.(KIENGIR (talk) 18:03, 19 December 2020 (UTC))