Talk:Rozelle–Darling Harbour Goods Line

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by Launchballer talk 18:03, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that the former Rozelle–Darling Harbour Goods Line features the largest brick railway viaduct in New South Wales?

• Source: 'The 28-span Jubilee Park Viaduct is significant as the longest section of brick arch viaduct on the NSW system.' https://www.hms.heritage.nsw.gov.au/App/Item/ViewItem?itemId=5045444

• ALT1: ... that when light rail was first envisioned on what was the Rozelle–Darling Harbour Goods Line, it was presumed that it would share the tracks with goods trains? Source: [1]
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• Comment: Since opening this nomination, I have moved the page from Rozelle–Darling Harbour railway line to Rozelle–Darling Harbour Goods Line. The former title reflected general – but not mandatory – convention on articles for Australian railway lines, while the latter reflects the line's common name. As such, this nomination links to what is now a redirect, while the hook itself links to what is now the article's primary title. The article remains the same; it has simply been moved on relatively minor technical grounds. Will Thorpe (talk) 07:03, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Created by Willthorpe (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Will Thorpe (talk) 15:07, 2 July 2024 (UTC).

• @Willthorpe: Redirects are not allowed on the main page and I'm not quite sure what your comment's trying to say, could you fix the link?--Launchballer 16:07, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Launchballer The subject of the nomination is the main page, not the redirect. The title of the article (Rozelle-Darling Harbour railway line) reflects Wikipedia convention on the naming of rail lines in Australia, while the hook and article body (Rozelle-Darling Harbour Goods Line) reflects its common name. Happy to amend if necessary. Cheers, Will Thorpe (talk) 01:40, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

I’ve actually now requested the article be moved to its common name, which is what is used in the nomination. Cheers, Will Thorpe (talk) 01:57, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

New enough, long enough, interesting, no copyright problems, hook cited on article, all good. The light is now green. JuniperChill (talk) 21:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

@Willthorpe and JuniperChill: iiiiii'm really not sure I'd agree that the hook is interesting? "Largest brick railway viaduct in New South Wales" doesn't seem to leave the reader wanting to know more. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 04:55, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

I was also thinking about it being converted to a light rail line, but that has also occured in Manchester so i don't consider that interesting. In fact, many UK light rail/tram systems actually used part of a former railway line. I also couldn't find anything else in the article that I consider interesting. I have interests in railway related stuff. JuniperChill (talk) 09:55, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

So do I. Biased as I am, I think it's alright – 'largest in NSW' – it's certainly in a niche-ish area, but then so are most other DYKs more or less. Will Thorpe (talk) 15:34, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand? Intrigue means curiosity. I don't think "Largest in NSW" is going to make people curious enough to click through to the article. We run plenty of niche DYKs, some of which are intriguing to people outside of the niche and some of which aren't. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 22:00, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Since an alternative hook hasn't been provided, I think that should be considered. I couldn't really say anything about being the largest in place hooks. Many should know Sydney is NSW's largest city. Everyone should know China/India is the largest country by population, etc. I am not sure if I can help but since its a former goods line, a hook like that may work. JuniperChill (talk) 08:38, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

JuniperChill Can you explain what you mean? theleekycauldron I have added an alternative hook featuring a different fact which I happen to have just added to the article. Will Thorpe (talk) 13:44, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

ALT1 also doesn't meet WP:DYKINT, IMO; new hook required. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:11, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

@Willthorpe: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 19:59, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

@Z1720: Hi, sorry, I will get to this in a few hours. Will Thorpe (talk) 01:06, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Z1720 JuniperChill I'm not sure I can formulate a passable alternative hook, so unless anyone has a suggestion, I would like to close the nomination. Cheers, Will Thorpe (talk) 12:43, 1 August 2024 (UTC)