Talk:Royal Ploughing Ceremony

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issue if we're focusing on southeast Asia when the imperial Chinese ceremony was more famous and influential by far. — LlywelynII 00:46, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

According to whom, and when? Searching for "China royal ploughing ceremony" on Google only returns coverage of the current SEA ceremony in Chinese news sites. In any case, the Chinese ceremony should be a separate article, since as far as we know no connection has been shown. --Paul_012 (talk) 06:14, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

According to general culture and history, on an extremely cursory search. If you don't know how to Google, apologies but you might want to work on that. (Don't feel as bad though, since Google is noticeably worse since the mid-2010s.)

In any case, once you've brought the Japanese in, obviously you're dealing with the Sinosphere... the most important component of which was China, which undertook this ritual as a central part of imperial legitimacy for 3000ish years and doubtlessly inspired or influenced the practices in neighboring kingdoms.

More generally, the point is that the article needs to pick a lane. If it's about royal plowing ceremonies generally, then it needs to be entirely restructured to stop focusing so much on Burma and Thailand. If it is focused on Burma and/or Thailand, it needs to be renamed to reflect that and it needs to jettison Japan and other bits of the article into a more general overview anyway. — LlywelynII 15:31, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

So why noy add something on China. India could do with more also. Johnbod (talk) 17:29, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Why not take it easy and tone down the condescension a bit? I was just pointing out (five years ago) that a cursory search revealed nothing to back up the claim that the imperial Chinese ceremony was "more famous and influential by far". In any case, I agree with your point of needing to pick a lane. I favour having separate articles, though I'm not yet convinced that that a rename is needed. I haven't so far seen any sources that refer to the East Asian tradition as the "Royal Ploughing Ceremony", capitalised as a proper noun. --Paul_012 (talk) 06:49, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Ceremony for Cambodia is on Thursday 19 May 2022

That's according to my Khmer lunar calender Sudzydoogiedawg (talk) 11:32, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Oops! That's calendar Sudzydoogiedawg (talk) 11:40, 7 May 2022 (UTC)