Talk:Rowther
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The book in the reference doesn't exist on amazon. Is there ISBN number for the mentioned book?
Please visit Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/இராவுத்தர்
editI believe that this is a non english version of this article. It requires input. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 14:31, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Nonexistent source
editThe very first edit to this talkpage notes that the cited reference cannot be found on Amazon [1]. It can't be found in the Library of Congress catalogue or that of any academic reference library I know. Furthermore, I am hard pressed to believe that all of the information presented in this article comes from a single page in this ostensibly rather rare book. Kafka Liz (talk) 02:59, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Lack of references
editActually they is no references found for this article which simply deviate the origins of native ravuther of Tamil Nadu.--Tan Meifen (talk) 15:38, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Papers in Anthropology, Volume 18, Issue 2[
editThe above was added in October 2013 but I cannot find it anywhere on the web. There are plenty of similar titles but none that include a volume 18. - Sitush (talk) 18:17, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
Open discussion of discrepancies in the article
editHello,
I have noticed that this wiki article is prone to continuous edits and overhauls. This thread is meant to serve as an open discussion about the issue.
Majority of the edits seem to be regarding the origin of the said community It is a well know fact that the community doesn't have a single point of origin. The current article addresses this issue in a neutral standpoint and discusses the various origin theories. If you have any issues with the way the things are written , kindly add reputed citations to your edits or discuss in this thread first and please avoid reverting the edits since it leads to a loss of many man hours of edits.
Rowther historian (talk) 06:12, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- I am tired of repeated Vandalism of this wiki article.
- For those who read the article and want to make edits/ know actual history, I'll leave the following:
- a. Rowthers are not one single tribe:
- No , we are not descended from one guy or one family. We share similar history and culture. So you may find a wide diversity among the people , from mongolic to dravidian facial features, which describes the complex intermixing and rich history we have.
- b. Origins of Rowther is still a matter of debate:
- Since we are not one tribe nor have we kept any written records, we can't say for certain when or where we are from. Most of what we know has been passed down orally from generation to generation. and if its not preserved suspicious groups with their hidden agenda would try to manipulate the history to serve their own vile purposes.
- https://ravuthar.blogspot.com/2011/10/rawther-history.html : The most complete source of Rowther history I found. If you are a historian or student of history please add more and contribute more academic articles.
- Thanks you Rowther historian (talk) 11:27, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
Brothers, turkic origin theory is not popular of Rowthers no one Rowthers claims like this in tamilnadu and early travancore RangeRover55 (talk) 04:10, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hello RangeRover55,
- Thanks for taking interest in the article and helping us expand it. As you might know the origins of Rowthers are still not studied and many of the theories are still speculations. I am a Rowther of Malayali descent, the only origin story I heard growing up was the Turkic one, the elders cited evidences such as their central asian facial features, distinction from other Muslim communities etc.
- In the wiki article I have cited a thesis from the reputed Christ University which backs this claim.
- Please do reply for any clarifications. Rowther historian (talk) 04:33, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Atleast address the issue before overhauling the entire article!
- What agenda are you pushing here? Rowther historian (talk) 11:10, 20 February 2023 (UTC)