Talk:Roter Frontkämpferbund

Latest comment: 2 months ago by Str1977 in topic 1

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This article's pretty crap. It seems a lot like some random Leftist's musings about this group, which is arguably very important in understanding German history, particularly the fall of the Weimar Republic and the rise of Nazism. Can someone please clean this up?

According to Two Germanies since 1945 by Henry Turner, Red Army soldiers "indulged in plunder and rape" of innocent Germans. So yes, it is very suspicious this is so one sided, and I hope someone expands on this and corrects it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:602:9E00:C920:8D6C:67D6:834D:620E (talk) 04:05, 28 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

This article has nothing to do with the (Soviet) Red Army. Nough said. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.240.63.17 (talk) 17:45, 5 August 2022 (UTC)Reply
plfx says: Leftist musings? The second paragraph blames the Rotfront for Hitler's ascension to power. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.170.211.46 (talk) 04:23, 16 July 2009 (UTC)Reply
Please don't overgeneralize: the text does not say so. Restored. - Altenmann >t 00:11, 16 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

80% of this article is about some obscure American group with a similar sounding name. Surely more sources exist on German communism for a better article than this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.11.19.39 (talk) 21:40, 10 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

Muzieka says::Indeed weird, the RFKB played a historically key role in German history. The obscure American group has as good as nothing to do with it. Just as weird is the sole reference, to The Red Network by Elizabeth Dilling Stokes. This book is the work of "the author of four political books, [who] claimed that Marxism and "Jewry" were synonymous. She believed that Francisco Franco was a brave Christian. She claimed many prominent figures were Communist sympathizers, including Eleanor Roosevelt, Mahatma Gandhi, Franz Boas and Sigmund Freud." Her book, Red Network, is a 1935 far-right denunciation of hundreds of communist organizations in the USA and elsewhere. See the Wikipedia article on her. Muzieka (talk) 11:56, 29 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

the lyrics at the end are surely incomplete? could someone fix that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.34.193.123 (talk) 09:32, 27 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

The Weimar Republic was morally bankrupt. The SA and RFK just cracked the asphalt. It should be noted the supporters of the KPD/Rotfront had no problem integrating into Hitler's Germany. At least they didn't resist. But then Hitler was a politician that actually delivered on his word. --41.151.0.98 (talk) 16:45, 10 November 2012 (UTC)Reply
That is such a stunningly outrageous lie you ought to hang your head in shame at those who died at the hands of the Nazis whilst doing anti-fascist work in the 1930's, many, many tens of thousands of Communists remained very active against the Nazis in incredibly dangerous conditions. If these Communists were so welcoming of Hitler and the Nazi takeover do you not feel it odd that thr Nazis built the first concentration camps specifically to round them up, and where so many of them died. 82.71.39.170 (talk) 00:00, 5 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
Those who ostensibly did "anti-fascist work" in the 1930s (which includes the time before 1933) share a large part of the blame of the Republic's fall and Hitler's rise. Note that they considered "social fascism" (i.e. Social Democrats) the much greater enemy because Moscow said so. Str1977 (talk) 08:24, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

This is a very tendentious article, heroizing and sanitizing the RFB. Mention is repeatedly made of police violence and attacks by the SA, while the RFB is presented as a purely defensive organization; in fact, the RFB murdered innocent police officers as well as Nazis (indeed, RFB member Erich Mielke, who is mentioned in the text, finally served his prison sentence for a murder committed in 1931 after the collapse of East Germany in 1989/90), and was intended to serve as the spearhead for the Stalinization of Weimar Germany. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.240.212.46 (talk) 23:47, 8 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

sources? Slatersteven (talk) 18:00, 5 August 2022 (UTC)Reply