Talk:Rosa Torre González

I think we have a mixup with Elena Torres

Duplicating the conversation here so that both have the notes on what appears to be unconfirmed. @Ipigott: @Rosiestep: I find multiple sources that say ROSA was the first woman elected to the Merida City Council. [1] [2] The Rappaport source says it is Elena Torres [3]

So, I backtracked. The Japanese source shows Elena established the Montessori School and I find no ties to Rosa with regard to that. So, I think that is accurate. This source [4] says Rosa was a delegate to the Pan American Conference in Baltimore, but I find no other reference to Rosa being there. The Japanese source says it was Elena.

My instinct is telling me that Rosa had ties with Yucatan and Rosa was a business partner with Felipe Carrillo Puerto (Yucatán's governor)'s sister. She seems logical for the first woman in politics. I am deleting the information on Elena being on the City Council, but the question is, since Rappaport is wrong on that, do we need to double check all her other info? I'm doubting that it was Elena who helped Carrillo Puerto establish socialism in Yucatan. Seems to me most of Elena's work was in Mexico City and northern Mexico, while all of Rosa's appears to be in Yucatan. SusunW (talk) 04:42, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Positive Rosa is the councilwoman. I just found her account of her tenure. [5] still not sure which of the two women organized the socialist party with Carillo Puerto, but am reading Rosa's report now. SusunW (talk) 05:08, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Positive that Elena attended the Pan-American Conference of Women, per the Boletín de la Unión Panamericana, Volume 55, page 135 and page 115, which also includes her photo. --Rosiestep (talk) 05:16, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Like 99% sure it was Elena who established Montessori. All sources agree on that and none even mention Rosa. Found one more source in Spanish [6] that says basically: "Readers will recall that General Alvarado arriving to Mérida invited this prominent Mexican feminist to found the first Montessori school in Mérida (Elena Torres is not the same that Rosa Torre, revolutionary, teacher and propagandist, friend Elvia Carrillo Puerto) ... Elena Torres will become the delegate of Yucatán, under the governorship of Felipe Carrillo Puerto, to the first Pan American Conference for women ... Rosa Torre who is chosen proprietary councilor of the city of Mérida."

It does not clear up which of them helped found the socialist party, as it says Elvia fled to Mexico City with Elena who put her in touch with communists. Maybe someone who is more fluent will get a clearer read as to whether it was Elena or Rosa who helped Felipe establish the socialist party. SusunW (talk) 06:15, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

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