Talk:Romanian passport
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Israel
editwhy it is israel in the list. on the site of romanian foreign affairs said that the romanians need visas for travel in israel. [1]. and in the Romanian Border Police site said that the romanians need visa [2]. I will remove (again) the israel from the list. There are also another mistake. romanians need visa for china, Exept Hong Kong
You are wrong matter of fact Romanians do have Visa Free Travel to Israel that came into effect from the 1st March 2008 and Israel doesn't need a visa to enter Romania. This agreement was established thus Romania being in the European Union. —Preceding unsigned comment added by APJ 34 (talk • contribs) 05:11, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
I have checked via the Continental Airlines Visa and Passport Requirements area that Romanian travelers can travel to Ethiopia with Visa on Arrival, and therefore needs to be added to the world map —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pryde 01 (talk • contribs) 20:16, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
I have added a few more countries on to the Visa Free/Visa on Arrival list. The map needs to be updated accordingly to the new updates based on the information given from IATA, on the Continental Airlines website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pryde 01 (talk • contribs) 02:53, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Romanilor care contribuiti la aceast articol. Verificati bine informatiile inainte de a scrie.
Romania & Japan
editWhy is Japan and Yemen added to the Visa Free/Visa on Arrival List? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pryde 01 (talk • contribs) 01:27, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
- You are correct. I will remove them from the map. They are not included on the list. Passportguy (talk) 07:45, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Greenland should be included on the Map, since the entry regulations for Denmark apply for Greenland. Is it possible if someone can add Greenland to the map such as shading it blue for Visa Free or shading it light blue for Visa on Arrival? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pryde 01 (talk • contribs) 10:52, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Niger needs to be also added. According to IATA Niger can issue Visa on Arrival since France represents Europe for European countries that have no diplomatic representation, so therefore Visa can be issued on arrival.
I have also added the Palestinian Authority since the Palestinian Authority is de facto and therefore the same Visa rules are the same as Israel's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pryde 01 (talk • contribs) 12:59, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
- Will do so Passportguy (talk) 11:02, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Niger
editNiger needs to be also added. According to IATA Niger can issue Visa on Arrival since France represents Europe for European countries that have no diplomatic representation, so therefore Visa can be issued on arrival.
- 1) Please take care to sign your posts and also add new comments at the bottom of the page, not in the middle.
- 2) The IATA database states :
[Visa issuance] PRIOR TO ARRIVAL: by a diplomatic representation of Niger in Algeria, Canada, Chad, China (People's Rep.), Cuba, Egypt, France, Iran, Italy, Libya, Mali, Mauritania, Morocco, Nigeria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and U.S.A. For European countries: French embassy acts for Niger, if there is no diplomatic representation of Niger."
- French embassy commonly represent visa interests of former colonies in Africa, issuing visas e.g. for Djibouti, Niger, Côte d'Ivoire etc. Because you can get a visa at the French embassy in Bucharest, the visa-on-arrival facility is not available to Romanians (at least officially).
- You can view an example of such an "in lieu" visa (in this case issuance on behalf of Djibouti) at [3]
Falkland
editWhy does someone keep adding Falkland Islands to the list, since Romanian currently need a Visa? Or do Romanians have Visa Free/Visa on Arrival?
- Again, please sign your posts and put the reply at the bottom of the page, not in between other posts, otherwise replying becomes a hassle.
- According to http://www.visitorfalklands.com/images/stories/fitb_info_ll.pdf all European Union nationals (thus including Romanians) do not need a visa to enter the Falkland islands. Passportguy (talk) 13:25, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Montserrat
editCan Montserrat be added to the Visa Free/Visa on Arrival list because Monserrat is part of Britain? Im guessing its the same addition as the Falkland Islands?Pryde_01)13:48, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- No, Montserrat has seperate immigration requirements from Great Britain (as do the Falkland Islands). The Falkland Islands allow all EU citizens to enter visa free, while Montserrat picks and chooses. According to the IATA database at [4] a visa is required. But if you can find an official site stating otherwise, you can certainly add Montserrat. Passportguy (talk) 14:22, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Additions
editI have added a few more countries please can this be updated on the map?[User:Pryde_01|Pryde_01]])14:20, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- As far as I can see, you have added only Saint Lucia. Are you planning on adding any more ? If so, I'll wait a while, otherwise I can certainly update the map. Passportguy (talk) 14:25, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
I have added Vanuatu because according to their website all European Community Members are entitled to Visa Free Access into Vanuatu[User:Pryde_01|Pryde_01]])15:02, 28 April 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pryde 01 (talk • contribs)
I also added Belize too, the website states that EU Member States dont need a Visa. User:Pryde_01|Pryde_01]])15:06, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Here's the website saying all European Community Members [5]. It says as from April 28 2004 so it means that from April 28th 2004 the EU Member States that joined from that date onwards get Visa Free Access into Vanuatu 15:18, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
- The way I read that source, is that only nations that joined the EU in 2004 (i.e. not Romania & Bulgaria who joined in 2007) no longer require visas. It may well be that the site is outdated, but I can't find a site actually listing Romania. Passportguy (talk) 15:20, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Here's the website that proves that Nationals of European Community countries do not require visas:
- [6]. And if you see at the bottom of the website it is currently up to date -2008Pryde 01 (talk) 15:31, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
So is it fine that I can add it?Pryde 01 (talk) 15:43, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Here's is also proof that all EU Member States do not require Visa's into Vanuatu: *[7] The website is updated up to 2008Pryde 01 (talk) 15:46, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
- Unfortunately lowlax.net is not an official site (by any means). I would say that IATA is significantly more reliable that a private American site on tax evasion. Passportguy (talk) 16:27, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
- As for Belize : the site of the tourism organization lists you mentioned lists only "members of the European Community" (which is outdated in and of itself), while the official site of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Belize (who make the rules) at http://www.mfa.gov.bz/belize/no_visa.php lists individual visa-free countries and does not list Romania as visa-free. As the latter is probably the most reliable, I would say that that source takes precedence of the other. Passportguy (talk) 16:32, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
I emailed about Visa's for EU Member states to the Solomon Islands Government website and it is confirmed that EU Countries will issued a Visa on Arrival for 3 months.Pryde 01 (talk) 23:20, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
- Did they confirm that Romania is part of these countries, i.e. that as "EU countries" they count all EU-27, not just some ? I'm asking, because http://www.commerce.gov.sb/Divisions/Immigration/Immigration_Requirements.htm lists EST/LV/LT and RO/BG as requiring visas. And as they list Kosovo as a seperate country the list must be fairly current. Passportguy (talk) 08:30, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Ethiopia
editWhoever had taken off Ethiopia leave it on there, because according to IATA Romanian's can travel to Ethiopia with Visa on Arrival on condition holding proof of residence e.g. Passport Check Continental Airlines if you need proof. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pryde 01 (talk • contribs)
- ??? See [8].
"Passport required. Visa required. However: [only if !] 1. if passenger is a holder of Identification Card of Foreign Nationals of Ethiopian origin; or 2. if attending meetings, seminars or workshops organized by the AU (African Union), or for other official duties of the AU and holding invitation letter stating purpose of travel: visa can be obtained on arrival."
I.e. generally a visa is not available on arrival to normal Romanian travellers. Such a visa is only available to 1) Romanians of Ethiopian origin 2) Romanians traveling on official African Union business Passportguy (talk) 14:40, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry I seem to be getting a different result than you. I clicked on Continental Airlines link at the bottom and I clicked Romania National. Its obviously coming up differently for you than me. You should check it via the Continental Airlines site just to make sure. ThanksPryde 01 (talk) 15:40, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
I have added Faroe Islands because according to IATA the entry regulations for Denmark apply for Faroe Islands. It is the same as Greenland —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pryde 01 (talk • contribs) 15:47, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm strange. Do you have a link to the Continental version ?
However the Ethiopian Ministry of Foreign affairs also doesn't list Romania amongst the VOA countries. See http://www.mfa.gov.et/Consular_Affair_Diplomatic/Visa_Issuance.php?Page=Visa_Issuance_5.htm. Passportguy (talk) 19:17, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
I have received an Email from the Belize Government and EU Members do not need Visa's to Enter Belize. Regarding Romanians they are also included since Romanians do not need Permits of any kind to enter the United Kingdom. Romanians are free to travel the United Kingdom as they please, they are have no restrictions whatsoever.Pryde 01 (talk) 22:56, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Passport guy, I cant seem to make link work, but if you click on the Continental Website, click Ethiopia and it will come differentPryde 01 (talk) 07:24, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
This is intriguing. I went to continental.com, clicked myself through to the travel info page here : [9].
Passport type : Normal Nationality : Romania Alien residency : None selected Departure country : United Kingdom (I just picked one) Destination country : Ethiopia
The result is the same as with the Delta database : Romanians need a visa. Passportguy (talk) 11:22, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Map
editOn the map of Africa I dont think all of the African countries are highlighted according to the Visa Free/VOA? Can this be corrected if need be?Pryde 01 (talk) 05:15, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- As far as I can see with a quick glace, all the relevant countries are coloured ? Which Africans countries do you deem missing ? Passportguy (talk) 10:07, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
It doesn't seem some of the African Countries are added on the African map. Not with my eyes. Is it possible if you can check if all the Africa Countries and place them on the map?Pryde 01 (talk) 08:19, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- I'm may just be blind, but I checked the map and cross-checked it with the Africa visa-vree list and all of them are there. Any specific country you think is missing ?? (Note that a lot of these countries are tiny islands which you can hardly see anyway.) Passportguy (talk) 09:55, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
I couldn't see it. Your right about the Islands.Pryde 01 (talk) 11:23, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
I notice some of the Middle Eastern countries have been taken off. There is Visa Free/VOA for a reasonable amount of Middle Eastern Countries how come they were taken off?Pryde 01 (talk) 11:23, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- The only countries in the ME offering VOA for Romanians are Oman, and Israel+Jordan (no visa required). All of the other Gulf states, even Jordan, require an advance visa. Passportguy (talk) 11:36, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Im going to put in all the EU 27 Member States as its necessary to do so.Pryde 01 (talk) 22:33, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Yemen
editUpdate: I have contact the Yemen Immigration Department and Romanians can get Visa on Arrival at the airport for a small fee. So please add Yemen to the Map. I am asking you not to remove Yemen. It may not say it on the Timatic Web. It is accepted that Timatic web is often out of date. This has been verified at least 3 times. Romania is treated VOA since being an EU Country.Pryde 01 (talk) 07:59, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
- Could you post the complete text of one of those letters here ? It is because we still need a source for this and I can't find any online sites that list more than the EU-25 countries.
- Btw : Do you have any idea whether this pertains to Bulgarians as well ? Passportguy (talk) 10:43, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Here is the text: Dear Alli
AS you oar of the EU yes you can obtain your visa at the airport with small fee
Rgds
Abraham Alomri
Original Message -----
From: Allie Pryde Jowsey To: 'YTPB' Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: RE: EU Visa
Dear Abraham
Can you confirm that Romanians can get Visa On Arrival. Because you said that Romanians can get Visa on Arrival at the Airport for a small fee.
Please get back to me
Thanks
Allie Pryde Jowsey
Original Message-----
From: YTPB [10] Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 8:10 PM To: alliepj@paradise.net.nz Subject: Re: EU Visa
Dear ALLI
Is Romania now part of the EU and been clear the membership or is going to be.
Please answer
Rgds
Original Message ----- From: Allie Pryde Jowsey To: 'YTPB' Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 10:56 AM Subject: RE: EU Visa
Dear Abraham
Just to clarify Romanians can get Visa On Arrival? This what I understand you saying
Please get back to me
Thanks
Allie Pryde Jowsey
Original Message-----
From: YTPB [11] Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 6:59 PM To: alliepj@paradise.net.nz Subject: Re: EU Visa
Dear Alli
You can obtain your visa at the Sana'a Airport. off course with small fee.
Rgds
Abraham
Original Message -----
From: Allie Pryde Jowsey To: 'YTPB' Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 11:40 AM Subject: RE: EU Visa
Dear Yemen
When will Romania get Visa Free Access to Yemen?. Romania is an EU Country
Thanks
Allie Pryde Jowsey
Original Message-----
From: YTPB [12] Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 7:54 PM To: alliepj@paradise.net.nz Subject: Re: EU Visa
Dear Allie
What part of EU .
The list of EU listed in our website @ www.yementourism.com
Rgds Abraham
Original Message -----
From: Allie Pryde Jowsey To: ytpb@yementourism.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 8:32 AM Subject: EU Visa
Dear Yemen
Do EU Members need a Visa?
Please get back to me
My email address is alliepj@paradise.net.nz
Thanks
Alex Pryde JowseyPryde 01 (talk) 09:43, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you for posting this !
- Just a quick note : You wrote that you contacted the "Yemen Immigration Department", and it seems from the above email you in fact contact the Yemen Tourist Office instead. Have you also contacted the Immigration Office or an embassy ?
- From the emails it seems clear that "Abraham" isn't fully aware of current visa procedures. He knows (or thinks) that all EU countries enjoy visa-on-arrival facilities, and therefore, as you tell him (rightly) that Romanian is an EU country, he confirms to you that Romania does not need a visa. What this hoever does not take into account, is that extentions of visa-free privledges take time, take laws and bylaws to be passed and other things which may take considerable time in a place like Yemen. And since Romania has only been part of the Eu for a little over a year, these laws may not have yet passed. A number of other countries still differenciate between EU-25 and RO/B, some even still only grant similar facilities to EU-15 countries.
- I'll try and get a reply from an embassy and keep you posted.
- For the moment this is enough as source to keep Yemen on the list, but eventually we'll need an official government source for this. 11:37, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
European Passport
editThese four Countries and Territories needs to be added to all of the EU PassportsPryde 01 (talk)
Canary Island Ceuta Madeira Melilla
Panama
editWhy Panama was deleted from the article? Romanians do not need visas for touristic travels to Rep. Panama. El Otro (talk) 06:19, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Passport Picture
editPlease keep using the good quality picture of the passport -> Ro pas.jpg Why does someone insist placing the picture "romanianpassport.svg" Its a really BAD quality picture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.78.49.87 (talk) 02:51, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
To 190.78.49.87: The color of you "version" is not rigt. It's not the real cover. Your color is almost purple (violet) when the original is close to red How you can call Ro pas.jpg a good picture when it's not even in focus ?, and the quallity is low. It;s easy to compare with romanian passport.png — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexis85 (talk • contribs) 14:23, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Ok, this version is better — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexis85 (talk • contribs) 17:23, 19 October 2011 (UTC)