Talk:Roman Catholic Diocese of Nitra

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Robert McClenon in topic Should have order designation

Misspelling in reference list edit

I don't know how to get at reflist, but I found this:
List of Bishops at diocese wepage

Please fix the spelling of what should be "webpage". Carlm0404 (talk) 11:16, 29 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Should have order designation edit

In a list of bishops, the order designation should appear for those who came from a religious order; exception would be the Pope (the current Pope, Francis, was a Jesuit, and the last 2 previous Popes from religious orders were Benedictines who were elected in 1831 and 1800).

Ján Chryzostom Korec appears in the part of this Wikipedia article which lists recent Bishops of Nitra, and, as is the case about Korec's own Wikipedia article, S.J. should appear here in 2 places; use of such designation is also done on catholic-hierarchy . However, my own attempts to use S.J. in THIS Wikipedia article have been reverted by a person who I am leaving unnamed.

Religious-order priests who become bishops no longer officially come under their order superiors, although they can continue to use the order designation. There have even been "perspective" articles about the idea of choosing bishops from orders as opposed to from diocesan clergy here's one:

https://www.ncronline.org/news/vatican/religious-order-bishops-are-long-contested-tradition

I do not consider religious-order reference to be "honorific". The opposite is true for something regarding degrees (like D.D.) or for some lay people being, say, Ph.D., or for the Beatles getting "MBE" designation in a 1965 conferral. Carlm0404 (talk) 12:31, 29 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Carlm0404, @Robert McClenon: already told you the situation on this. Your attitude is disruptive and against consensus. Elizium23 (talk) 15:07, 29 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
Religious-order designations are not honorifics, but they are post-nominals. We only use honorifics and post-nominals once, in the biography of the person. We only use the religious-order designation in the biography of the bishop. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:03, 29 April 2020 (UTC)Reply