Talk:Roland Bulirsch

PROD removed

Significant scholarly impact--senior professor, author of many articles and books including the standard reference in a major field. Meets WP:ACADEMIC. LaguerreLegendre (talk) 22:35, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Birthplace

My edit was reverted without proper justification in the Edit summary. Bulirsch was born in 1932, when Liberec was already part of Czechoslovakia, Bohemia wasn't used anymore. I'm not sure if the Czech name Liberec was already official or there was bilingual name Liberec/Reichenberg, however, for purposes of Wikipedia, the historic name Reichenberg is redundant in both cases and is not the subject of this biography. Who wants to know the historic name of Liberec, visits Liberec. FromCzech (talk) 12:29, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

It wasn't me who reverted, - I talked on your talk page. All sources I saw say he was born in Reichenberg, so please find a way to mention that word. Bohemia is a region that didn't cease to exist when Czechoslovakia was formed in 1918. The subject spoke German, one of the Sudeten Germans. - Again, we have to also say what the sources say, or our readers can't see the connection. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:47, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

He had a czech father and a german mother, spoke both languages and always supported the german-czech friendship and resiliation. Hence it fits his heritage and thinking to mention both names. In 1930 the town had a 80% german speaking majority. about "bohemia", i'd say, not needed. Nillurcheier (talk) 14:11, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

I do not question his roots and ethnicity in any way. As I wrote on my talk page, it doesn't matter how the city is listed in the German-language source. München/Munich is Mnichov in Czech, but the use of a Czech source would not authorize me to use the name Mnichov in the text in ENG or GER Wiki. "Our readers" are English-speaking readers, and for them the modern name is preferred for better understanding, not the historical one. If you would write

In infoboxes and biografies, Bohemia is used as an abbreviation of Kingdom of Bohemia, which actually ceased to exist in 1918. Bohemia as a historical land has nothing to do there. FromCzech (talk) 18:25, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

I don't think you understand me. Why not provide both names, as here, or here, or here? If I was a reader and saw born in Liberec, but the reference says Reichenberg, I would simply be confused. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:47, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

The first and second example are from the era before 1918, the third one has it unnecessarily. The reference is in German, so if the user understands German, it won't confuse him. So it is with all exonyms. Adding Reichenberg adds information about the city, not the person the page is about. FromCzech (talk) 05:12, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

I decided to return Reichenberg into the text, although I think it's pointless. But there is no need to repeat it in the infobox. FromCzech (talk) 05:22, 1 October 2022 (UTC)