Talk:Roger Daltrey/Archive 1

Latest comment: 10 years ago by GoingBatty in topic Religion
Archive 1


Son

If Jamie Daltrey is a 'legendary' photographer, why does he not have his own Wikipedia entry, or any other significant internet presence? Perhaps a better word could be found?

Or perhaps we should use citeable material instead of deciding for ourselves who is legendary. CynicofWiki 18:41, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

CSI Appearance

I read on MTV.com somewhere that Roger will appear in an upcoming CSI episode. No word yet on his role.

McVicar Dates

I have been trying to establish a date for the soundtrack album, McVicar, and I am a bit confused. The movie appeared in 1980, but the only date I've found for the album is 1996. I have assumed this is the date for the CD, but I have just purchased the CD and the PolyGram date on it is 1973!

Can anyone offer any insight?

Rdikeman 13:21, Nov 3, 2004 (UTC)

I found a source that gives 1980 as the album release date, and a mid-90s date for the CD.
Rdikeman 23:14, Nov 3, 2004 (UTC)

1980 is correct. For more information on Daltrey's albums, see reference at http://www.wdkeller.com/index7.htm/ Pkeets 05:13, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Removed link

I removed this link to The Who Locations guide because it's all ready on the main The Who article and doesn't seem to be needed in this one. ~~ShiriTalk~~ 02:00, May 7, 2005 (UTC)

Roger's cross

I was curious about the cross that Roger is always pictured wearing in the 70's. Was he religious at all or was the cross just another bauble hung on all rock singers? I'm not quite sure... but I know he was always wearing it. -The Seeker

Ok, yeah I know the wording was kinda lame, but I couldn't think of what to say. Could someone answer it anyway??? -The Seeker

This is completely hearsay, but I've heard that it has to do with the TOMMY role, where Tommy was accepted as a messiah by his fans. Daltrey seems to have left this behind in recent years, and wears other pendants instead. The most recent one appears to be a guitar. Pkeets 05:13, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

In fact, it is a so-called Sarcelly cross. The Tommy crucifix looked more like a silver (pinball) ball superimposed on a Tau (or St Anthony's) cross for Tommy's initial. I have it on good authority (friends of Pete Townshend's)that despite all the wild rock 'n' roll parties, Daltrey loves Jesus and collects Christian art. In the streets of New York, people often called out: Heeeeeey! Tommy!!, whenever they bumped into him. The cover of his debut solo album was recycled as Sally Simpson's wallpaper, and also looks quite Messianic. I had a theory that he had copied the hairstyle from Pete's Indian guru Meher Baba, but the vitriolic lines in "Times Change" on Daltrey's "Rocks in the Head" solo album (1992)tell a different story: Better this (the hedonistic club scene) than some guru telling you how to live" ... Cheers, everybody Frank Landsman 07:46, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Sex God...?

This sounds really awkward, but Daltrey was considered a rock and roll "sex god", correct? Shouldn't that be mentioned in the article somehow? Irunwithscissors 19:46, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Like you, I don't know if that's an appropriate way to phrase it ;), but yes, Daltrey does seem to have been the prototype for Cock Rock front men. Although his stage persona appears to be an expression of his personality, it was taken up by many other rock musicians as a formula for achieving a successful image. Daltrey has always been considered unusually attractive, and appeared to have some difficulties in preserving his privacy and coming to grips with the Groupie phenomenon. He also has more children than are mentioned in this article. Pkeets 05:28, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

History Channel Show

Didn't he have a short-lived show on the History channel (sometime in 2003). I might be mixing him up with someone though. OsFan 16:58, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes. For a reasonably complete list of films, check at the IMDB. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002032/ Pkeets 17:23, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Charity Work

Roger Daltrey was awarded the C.B.E. for contributions to the UK music industry, but also for his enormous contributions to charity work. He organizes an annual round of concerts at the Royal Albert Hall for the Teen Cancer Trust and often performs charity work for other causes. He was featured as one of TIME MAGAAINE's Heroes in 2003. http://www.time.com/time/europe/hero/daltrey.html/ This should appear in the article.Pkeets 17:25, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Er, am I so old?

Why is there nothing about Woodstock here. Those of us who are old enough will never forget Daltrey's singing the words "See me, feel me, touch me, heal me". I wish I knew enough to add something to the article.


That's a great point. Woodstock was 1969, and I haven't heard any audio from that show, but you can listen again to "see me, feel me" (free) in a Who concert from 1968 on concert vault at The Fillmore. http://concerts.wolfgangsvault.com/dt/the-who-concert/945-7962.html Medecki (talk) 19:36, 26 June 2008 (UTC)gm

Punching

The several paragraphs on Daltrey's tendency for punching people make him seem like some sort of maniac, isn't there a quote or something that can be used to downplay this or something? 75pickup (talk · contribs) 03:28, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Harmonica and Moon Movie

he also plays the harmonica. He has been pursuing the idea of making a movie about Keith moon for quite some time...latest news Mike Meyers said he's play the main part. I'm sure I can think of more to add but maybe I'll do that once I figure out how to do editing hereSparklepunk 19:17, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Tommy 25th anniversary tour?

I'm brand new so please bear with me if I don't do this right. On this page it says that Daltry reunited with the Who for a 25th anniversary Tommy tour but I believe that Tommy was originally released in 1969(and that's the year given on the Tommy page), not 1964, so somebody's math is wrong somewhere. Can someone look into this and correct it? Thanks --Melisandebrat 02:28, 14 May 2007 (UTC)melisandebrat

This reference is to the anniversary date of The Who, rather than to the Tommy album. Watch for the 40th Tommy album anniversary coming up in 2009. They'll certainly plan something.Pkeets 15:25, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Yep, the 1989 tour was for the 25th Anniversary of The Who and the 20th Anniversary of Tommy. Townshend has stated that a big tour is planned for the 2009 40th Anniversary of Tommy. 74.77.222.188 01:46, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Early Morning Cold Taxi

Is their a reference for the claim that this song was written solely by Langston? 74.77.222.188 01:44, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Personal Life

Shouldn't there be a section about it? -MichiganCharms 20:16, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

The link to Heather Thomas goes to the wrong Heather Thomas. The linked one was born in 1977, and Roger and Heather got married in 1971. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.70.151.191 (talk) 04:13, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Well spotted. It's removed now. Have a nice day, Rosenknospe (talk) 08:52, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

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Tours Section

Can someone add a section on Who tours throughout the dcades —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.204.240.195 (talk) 16:58, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

This is covered under The Who article. Check the template. Pkeets (talk) 04:16, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

LYRIC tenor?

I was having my doubts about the idea of Daltrey being a tenor at all to begin with, I can easily see him as a baritone. But if he's a tenor, it's definitely one of the lower types, like heldentenor or dramatic tenor. Not at ALL lyric tenor! I mean really, in comparison to other rock singers, his voice really isn't that high at all...

--Rock Soldier (talk) 03:17, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

I disagree, Roger's definitely a tenor. He sounds like a "mid" tenor to me.--Greg D. Barnes (talk) 03:37, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
I'll still vote tenor. He's always had a tremendous range, but he is losing the upper end of it since he made 60. I can see why some would think he's a baritone.Tattoo2000 (talk) 06:03, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Check out the CD One of the Boys.Pkeets (talk) 05:08, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

I wrote a comment on Daltrey's remarkable range (starting out with a Howlin' Wolf type of voice, extending his range to a flexible tenor in ballads (Tattoo, Giving It All Away)and a kind of self-invented raw Heldentenor, notably in Quadrophenia)but this was deleted by someone who reckons the article should focus on this superb vocalist's love children. Good luck! Frankly speaking (talk) 16:54, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Tin Man

can someone please put down on his filmography that he was the tin man in the wizard of oz concert movie —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.184.180.254 (talk) 21:52, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Massive changes to this article

DaltreyEntwistleMoonTownshend, you will need to post your reasons for making such large changes to this article and propose your changes for discussion. Just because you disagree with the info doesn't mean that your opinions are factual.Pkeets (talk) 01:27, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

I had a look at the section and statements you removed and added some citations. I've been tempted to take out the paragraph on Langston/Daltrey myself, as it is the type of material that requires citation in Wikipedia and it has been there uncited for some time. However, I did manage to find a source for the info, although it was also unreferenced. Until someone provides a better reference or a definite challenge, perhaps this will do. Comments? Pkeets (talk) 04:53, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

2010 Appearances

76.224.163.156, how did Daltrey and No Plan B appear at Summerfest before the festival? Please read more carefully before you edit. Pkeets (talk) 03:58, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Sources for the article don't belong in External links

Unused sources for the article don't belong in External links. I have transferred them from the link farm there to this talk page, where they do belong. Please place unused references here from now on. Thank you. --Leahtwosaints (talk) 11:31, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

I don't see that these are all sources for the article. It could be that the articles should be placed in a "Further Reading" section, but sample audio and video are not sources. I see no precedent for placing these on a discussion page. Pkeets (talk) 15:08, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Article Greatly Lacking Sources

All of the biographical sections of the article are basically totally unsourced. I would say at least 3/4 quarters of this article are unsourced. The only section that have adequate sourcing are section dealing with equipment and awards. I have started by removing a mountain of unsourced information from the infobox. Please work on sourcing what we have and not simply adding. Ridernyc (talk) 17:23, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Religion

The section that says Roger Daltrey is Agnostic was taken out of context. The interview that it cited said:

Mr Daltrey refused to rule out voting for UKIP in the next election. He said: ‘I’ve met Nigel (Farage) but I don’t know who I’ll vote for. I’m agnostic at the moment.’ It is not the first time that the outspoken musician has waded into the debate on immigration.

He was referring to his political choice, not literally saying he was agnostic. As far as I can find, he has never publicly stated that he is of any specific belief. This should probably be removed. It would be better to have no information on this than incorrect information.

Myrab51 (talk) 19:58, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

@Myrab51: - Nice catch! I've removed the misleading sentence and the corresponding category. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 23:58, 10 December 2013 (UTC)