Talk:RoboCup

NOT autonomous

The humanoids in the Robocup are not currently full-sized, and neither are autonomous. They are controlled with remote control. Filur 05:47, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

• Fixed --Phanton 16:48, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

No, they are autonomous. There are obstacle courses, penalty kick challenges, etc. all done with autonomous, humanoid robots. Not full size though. Sancho McCann 09:58, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

You mean they just build and program their robot teams, set them down in a field, and turn them on and watch? Like matching two autonomous computer chess programs together? It's not at that point yet.

Yes, it is. The official rules of the 2006 humanoid league state: "Robots participating in the Humanoid League competitions must act autonomously while a competition is running. No external power supply, teleoperation, remote control, or remote brain of any kind is allowed." See: http://www.humanoidsoccer.org/rules/HumanoidLeagueRules2006.pdf Colin M. 14:42, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Soccer vs Football

On the official RoboCup.org website they refer to RoboCupSoccer and not RoboCup football.

Hence I have changed all occurances of football to soccer in accordance with the official naming of the RoboCup events.

--Phanton 16:52, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

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It should be football as that is the common word used in the world. Soccer is exclusively an American term, and they barely play the game, just because a site about this article uses the word soccer doesn't indicate we should. We are an international not an American encyclopedia, SqueakBox 16:57, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

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Actually, quite a few countries such as:

• Australia
• Canada
• Ireland
• United States
• New Zealand
• South Africa
• Marshall Islands
• Samoa

All prefer to use "soccer" rather than "football".

There is also an issue of confusion.

From Football (word):

• The word "football" may mean any one of several games, in different parts of the English-speaking world. Because of the existence of different kinds of "football", controversy — usually friendly in nature — may result from unqualified usage of the word.

• "Football" (or "foot-ball") originally referred to a wide variety of games played in medieval Europe, which were played on foot — that is, by peasants — as opposed to the games played by horse-riding aristocrats. The name was used initially for any game played on foot with a ball, not just those that involved kicking a ball.

Soccer only has one meaning, whereas Football can refer to any number of different games.

Take a look at the 2050 vision again:

• By 2050, develop a team of fully autonomous humanoid robots that can win against the human world champion team in soccer.

And that comes from "a site" which happens to be the official body of RoboCup, which founded the RoboCup 2050 vision, and organises all international RoboCup events and competitions.

I feel that they've made quite clear that (for reasons of clarity?) the official reference to the game should be soccer rather than football (in the context of RoboCup).

The site I quoted was not just any old site, it is the FIFA of RoboCup and therefore lays out the rules and standards of the competition.

--Phanton 02:24, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

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The use of "soccer" in this context is correct. I've been involved with RoboCup for about three years and have never heard any RoboCup researchers use the term "robot football" to describe their own work, despite the fact that many top RoboCup teams are from Europe. Search on scholar.google.com for "robot soccer" and "robot football" and you will find that there are 3,450 papers mentioning "robot soccer", with only 162 papers mentioning "robot football". Also, the official proceedings of the RoboCup Symposium are always titled like "RoboCup-98: Robot Soccer World Cup II". Colin M. 13:18, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

What year is this?

Under "Previous competitions" it mentions year 2007. I was under the impression that this is still year 2006. Need rewording. Shinhan 16:50, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Changed the heading to "Venues". –Mysid^(t) 17:27, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

References

Why even though this article has a few references in it to other sources does it say at the top that it doesn't have any. I have been trying to check and make the reference section in the right format but am not sure what that is.

Please help fix this? Can I just remove the reference tag at the top??

amcdermid 6 September

External links

This article really needs exterbnal links reduced. Not only the sheer amount does not fit into the guidlines, most of the links are even twice in the article. If noone volunteers, I'll do it when time permits. -- Windharp (talk) 14:54, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

I have updated and fixed the External Links Section. All links stated elsewhere in the article have been removed ie in the External Links section or relate to other wikipedia articles and are not specific to this one. User: amcdermid 7 April 2009.

5.Robocup Introduction & Three RoboCup Junior Team Websites (Myleghurts, Normalforce & The Covenant)
- This link has been removed as this content is currently down. I am in the process of re-creating improving upon the RoboCup Introduction Section. Will place the updated link if I get time to complete.(I am copyright/Site Owner for this content.) amcdermid 7 April 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.176.69.146 (talk) 11:42, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

The domain robocup2003.org is sold to a domaingrabber or something, at least there is no robocup anymore on that page. --Timo.Scheffler (talk) 16:48, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

I removed a broken link: Domabotic's RoboCup Forum Drewnoakes (talk) 13:57, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

interwikilink is wrong

The german interwikilink to Roboterfußball is wrong, since it is an article about robotic soccer in general and not the RoboCup in particular, which is found at de:RoboCup in the german-language Wikipedia. Sadly the interface of Wikidata is not working and only smashes errors at me without helping me to solve the issue. 78.35.214.143 (talk) 21:43, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

I think the problem is that there are now two pages of wikidata that need to be merged:

• Wikidata:Q1137707
• Wikidata:Q14524871

However, I'm not familiar enough with Wikidata to understand how that can be accomplished. PhilKnight (talk) 21:52, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Ok, instead of giving endless error messages, the site now seems to be working, and I've (hopefully) fixed the issue. Thanks for raising this. PhilKnight (talk) 01:04, 21 July 2014 (UTC)